Church or State, Which Rules?

Written by Marty on April 20th, 2005

    This week the Catholic Church chose Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger to be their next Pope. He will be known as Pope Benedict XVI, a new name but not a new man. If I were a Catholic I would be alarmed by some of his far right stance. Pope Benedict XVI does not seem amused with dissent.

He wrote a letter of advice to U.S. bishops on denying communion to politicians who support abortion rights, which some observers viewed as a slam at Democratic presidential candidate John F. Kerry. He publicly cautioned Europe against admitting Turkey to the European Union and wrote a letter to bishops around the world justifying that stand on the grounds that the continent is essentially Christian in nature. In another letter to bishops worldwide, he decried a sort of feminism that makes women “adversaries” of men The Washington Post

    The Agnosticism/Atheism Blog nicknamed him, “The Enforcer.”

He's been head of Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (formerly the Inquisition) for more than 20 years and he has been described as being even more zealous in the defense of orthodoxy than the pope himself. . . . has also condemned Buddhism, Hinduism and other Eastern religions as offering false hope through “auto-erotic spirituality”, accused the media of exaggerating the extent of the pedophilia scandals in the North American Church.

    I know that many will find the quote of an Agnostic or Atheist source as suspect. It would be unlikely that they would have anything good to say about any Christian so lets see what Christianity Today has to say about him.

 Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, said Ratzinger will be an ally of U.S. religious conservatives on a litany of moral issues such as abortion, gay rights, cloning and physician-assisted suicide.

    The rosy picture that some conservative want to paint of the new Pope does not match their previous rhetoric. Where the action of a youth should often be forgiven and overlooked, this has not been the attitude of the far right. How many times have we heard a Neo-Con blasting Senator Byrd for having joined the KKK as a teen? There is no sympathy or compassion even though he quit it shortly after and said it was the worst mistake of his life. I wonder if they will take the same attitude with the new Pope?

At the age of 14, he joined the Hitler Youth, as was required of young Germans of the time, but was not an enthusiastic member. (The Times of India) Schooled in the Nazis' power of rhetoric during his childhood in Bavaria, the Pope later deserted the German Army during World War II, only to be sent to a POW camp when the Allies reached his hometown. (BBC)

    Do not misunderstand me, I just find the hypocrisy upsetting. The Pope has a long standing Fan Club which makes it is difficult to think that he would still hold those Nazi views. The problem I have is with him wanting to push his believes on the American citizenry. These are his own words:

Regarding the grave sin of abortion or euthanasia, when a person’s formal cooperation becomes manifest (understood, in the case of a Catholic politician, as his consistently campaigning and voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws), his Pastor should meet with him, instructing him about the Church’s teaching, informing him that he is not to present himself for Holy Communion until he brings to an end the objective situation of sin, and warning him that he will otherwise be denied the Eucharist. (Worthiness to Receive Holy Communion. General Principles, by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger)

   So the question is, should the Church dictate public policy to the State? Do you think it is right for any religion to deny those who vote contrary to the opinion of the Church?




 

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  1. Anonymous says:

    I

  2. Anonymous says:

    If Kerry wants to be a Catholic or Christian then he shouldn't be for abortion, gay rights, cloning and physician-assisted suicide. Sorry but that is just how I see it.

  3. Anonymous says:

    Who Rules???? CHURCH or STATE??? Depends on whom one believes is RULER of their lives ..
    Personally My ruler is GOD! almighty. IT is HIS WORD that counts.
    Of course that does not mean that the STATE agrees, OR men do either. For the most part men neither understand nor agree that God Almighty is King of kings and Lord of lords, God of gods,
    In the first place, “State” means stationary, or to stand. also means a body of people politically organized under ONE GOVERNMENT. GOVERNING RULE.
    The last I knew and I was taught that AMERICA was a GOVERNMENT of the people For the people, ONE PEOPLE UNDER GOD!!! HIM being OUR AUTHORITY over all other authority of MEN.
    We have now come so far from this that we no longer are as we once were.
    GOD'S LAWS are
    “Thou shalt HAVE NO OTHER GOD'S before ME.”
    YET ALL have all but forgotten the God That HAS created them and Given them LIFE.
    HAVING HIM and HIS WORD and TRUTH all but taken from us in all walks of our lives, by those whom do not want to have His truth facing them each and every day. BY having His laws being punished and having those broken laws of God taken and dealt with.
    GOD'S LAWS are “Thou shalt NOT MURDER”
    Yet WE MURDER OUR UNBORN DAILY by the thousands, and DO NOT get any PUNISHMENT for breaking this law of GOD.
    GOD'S LAWS are, “Thou shalt not bare false witness”
    YET LIES are told and ENCOURAGED to be told by those very people that should be honest and having INTEGRITY TAKING and GIVING BRIBES, TO HAVE PUNISHMENTS that are due to be abated or made less then are due.
    BELIEVING IN GOD ALMIGHTY and HIS WRITTEN WORD, THE HOLY SCRIPTURES, ALL as INDIVIDUALS MUST CHOOSE GOD OR NOT GOD. RECIEVE HIM and HIS REALITY and TRUTH, OR DENY HIM and JUST CONTINUE In the way we are going. DOING all those things we KNOW TO BE NOT RIGHT TO DO.
    AS individuals as long as we do not murder, lie, steal , or do an ILLEGAL ACT OR DEED we have no problem with ANYONE EXCEPT those whom. DO NOT FOLLOW THE LAWS OF GOD ALMIGHTY!!!
    SEPERATION OF CHURCH and STATE????? ALL GOVERNMENTS THAT ARE MADE UP OF MEN!! MUST DECIDE what will be that which they stand UPON? LAWS OF GOD!! or LAWS OF men that want to let DEATH, EVIL, and WICKEDNESS REIGN ??????
    FREEDOM CANNOT be had by LAWLESSNESS,
    MENS HEARTS are MOSTLY AGAINST, DOING RIGHTEOUSNESS.
    FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS IS NOT IN THE HEART OF ANY ONE MAN.
    RIGHTEOUSNESS is ONLY IN ONE andTHAT ONE is for the most part neither BELIEVED IN, nor recieved by men as SAVIOR OF THE WORLD and BEARER of our sin!!!!
    YES OUR SIN!!!! OUR UNRIGHTEOUSNESS< OUR WICKEDNESS, OUR UNLOVING UNKINDNESS< OUR HATREDS for OTHERS> THOSE NEIGHBORS we are supposed to LOVE. CANNOT LOVE ANYONE when HATRED IS within the heart. and NO LOVE IS there, NO GOD, NO LOVE, NO GOD, NO PEACE,

  4. Anonymous says:

    I don

  5. Anonymous says:

    Dear Jessica; Pardon me, First; “A Fetus is not a baby” I do not know how old you are, Maybe you need a lesson in medicine and anatomy. A fetus has a beating heart at 22 days into gestation

  6. Anonymous says:

    What about what she said “there were thousands of Iraqi babies that were killed by us for no reason! There have been over hundred thousand innocent people killed because of our invasion!” I don't hear anyone on the right crying for them! If we point out how wrong Bush was to invade we are accused of Bush bashing.

  7. Anonymous says:


    Suzanne

       I have engaged in the debate of whether a fetus is a baby and abortion murder on countless occasions. There is one fact that has prevailed; facts, the Bible, arguments, and logic didn

  8. Anonymous says:

    Hello Rick Nice to meet you; We all are entitled to our opinion about anything that we may agree or disagree with on this planet earth. even including what we believe about our very existence. That does not mean that just because we have an opinion about something, that that is the right opinion to have. When we want to know what the right opinion to have is right or wrong we must find someone, or somehow or something that will verify and give us the truth of what the right o[pinion is to have, about any given subject.
    I must say I have no love of war and many thousands of innocent people dieing in the process of fighting a war against what is against the good and righteousness of GOD and His ways of doing things. IF I HAD MY WAY!!! and COULD MAKE IT SO????? I would be GOD ALMIGHTY and EVERYBODY ON THIS EARTH WOULD HAVE NOTHING BUT LOVE FOR ONE ANOTHER!!!!!! But guess what?? I nor you nor anyone else on the face of this earth is or ever will be GOD ALMIGHTY!!
    GOD'S WILL IS that NONE PERISH!! BUT again we are flesh and blood human beings that are decietful, evil haters of anyone and anything that denotes and says YOU MUST DO THIS OR THAT.. IT is within each and every one of US to either do what is GOOD and RIGHT TO DO!! or do what is NOT good and NOT right to do. BLESSED ARE THE PEACE MAKERS!!!!!! well PEACE MAKERS CAN TRY to make PEACE all they want to but if people do not want to abide and have PEACE then PEACE will never be.. IF there is no peace there is war and rumors of wars, and that is the way it has been ever since MAN the FIRST CREATION OF GOD DISOBEYED OUR HEAVENLY FATHER IN THE BEGINNING!!! AS LONG as men demand to be rulers over all other men instead of having love of mankind as God has loved mankind, there will be death by MURDER OF INNOCENTS whether it be by men at war with one another over land, woman, goods, or just not wanting to have and take responsibility for what they have begun. Such as a NEW LIFE …
    LOOK AT WHO ARE those that are talking PEACE AMONG ALL MEN!! LOOK who is TALKING AND WORKING FOR ALL MEN TO BE FREE TO LIVE AND WORK AND HAVE ALL THAT GOD CAN GIVE THEM JUST BY FAITH AND LOVE OF HIM and LOVE OF EACH OTHER????
    THEN look at all those that are FIGHTING AGAINST THIS FREEDOM??? look at all those that are willing to KILL 100's and thousands, TO KEEP PEACE AND FREEDOM to be had by their people. THERE is an EVIL IN MEN HEARTS, that IF NOT dealt with then that EVIL will take over all the world and there will be NO GOOD LEFT AT ALL ON THIS EARTH!!!
    BUT what is the GOOD NEWS IN ALL OF THIS?????
    GOD'S WILL IS going to be done in HIS HEAVEN, and ON HIS EARTH, and IN HIS UNIVERSE. for GOD has CREATED IT ALL.
    IF YOU DOUBT FOR ONE SECOND that GOD HAS NO control. and THAT HIS WILL CANNOT BE DONE. then you know neither who you are in HIM nor do you know HIS TRUTH and HIS LOVE and HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS and HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON that has and is in all authority in heaven and on earth.
    MEN can change what they believe, say, live, if they REALLY WANT TO CHANGE, BUT IF they do not want to change.. then NO MAN ON EARTH WILL EVER be able to MAKE ANY OF US do anything we do not want to do. THERE IS ONLY ONE whom CAN CHANGE A MANS HEART. from one of HATE and WICKEDNESS,, to a HEART THAT HAS LOVE FOR THE HEAVENLY FATHER that has CREATED them and given them life, and their neighbor as they are COMMANDED BY GOD TO DO!!!!
    THERE is such a thing as CIRCUMCISION THAT is made without hands.. JUST AS it has been written of. THE WORD! is SHARPER THEN ANY two-edged sword. IT CUTS DEEP into the HEART OF ANY MAN that will ALLOW IT TO CIRCUMCISE HIS HEART!!!!!!!
    NOT MANY believe that truth anymore then they believe anything else HE has had written that we might LEARN OF HIM and ABOUT OURSELVES and this WORLD we FIND ourselves in..
    AS LONG as mankind decides he wants to do it his way instead of GOD'S WAY?????? mankind will continue to die in wars and other ways that KILL MEN!!! and all because men would rather do it their way then GOD'S WAY.
    I do not come in to make anyone be saved or to not die. or to be righteous and good and do all that is right to do or to make anyone agree with me about GOD or anything else I say.
    WE STILL HAVE THAT CHOICE TO MAKE!!! as an INDIVIDUAL!!!! GOD NOR I WILL FORCE ANYONE INTO COMPLIANCE AND DO IT HIS WAY!!! and LOVE THEIR NEIGHBOR OR HIM. for all that GOD is SEEKING IS a people that will worship Him in SPIRIT and TRUTH.
    YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL CAN ONLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION??? I KNOW NOT ANYONES HEART the way GOD DOES!!! BUT YOU CAN KNOW THIS!!! GOD KNOWS who are those that LOVE HIM and has HIS LOVE IN their heart for another.
    NOW DO I LOVE MY NEIGHBOR YES, I LOVE ALL THAT GOD HAS GIVEN US to have love for and to take care of and enjoy. DO I HATE THE EVIL AND WICKEDNESS that LIVES AMONG US and DOES ALL THAT THEY CAN TO MURDER AND KILL AND DESTROY ALL THAT IS OF GOD!!!!!! YES.. even GOD HATES EVIL, WICKEDNESS that is against HIM and HIS, WORD THAT HE HAS SENT TO SAVE THE WORLD,
    This is also a TRUTH.. WE do not fight against flesh and blood, we war and fight against principlalities and powers of DARKNESS.. and THOSE ARE UNSEEN only manifested in the bodies they possess, spirit, THERE ARE spirits of DARKNESS and spirits of LIGHT. and THE DARKNESS and the LIGHT is in the heart of men.. THE HEARTS of men have either the HOLY SPIRIT , within them which is OF GOD AND HIS LOVE, or the spirit of DARKNESS that steals, kills, and destroys those that IT INDWELLS IN. WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS TRUTH??????
    JESUS CHRIST is the ONLY BEGOTTEN OF GOD being the SON OF GOD whom was sent to BEAR OUR SINS, SAVE THE WORLD, and BE King of kings , Lord of lords, and GOD of gods.
    what and who has said that HE HAS NOT FINISHED what HE WAS SENT TO DO???????
    I believe and it is and has been written that HE DID COME, SHED HIS BLOOD, TOOK OUR SIN, DIED SO WE would not have to EXPIERENCE THAT DEATH, was BURIED, and ROSE AGAIN, having then BAPTISING with HIS HOLY SPIRIT TO ANY AND ALL THAT WOULD BELIEVE and RECIEVE HIM, and HIS BAPTISM. HE LIVES TODAY RULING and REIGNING and STILL SENDING HIS HOLY SPIRIT TO ANY AND ALL whom BELIEVE and DO NOT DENY HIM.
    WILL HE return?? ABSOLUTELY and when HE does. EVEN THE KNEE of the UNBELIEVERS will bow and know HE is LORD!
    IT is written that even those whom have pierced HIM shall SEE HIM.
    I do not come to force anyone into anything, ARGUE about GOD , HIS WORD, OR His TRUTH. HIS TRUTH is evident and if one cannot hear and see that then so be it.
    It is also written and is true that all that KNOW HIM will hear His voice.
    QUESTION; How can one hear HIM that is if they first do not believe He is and exists? GOD is SPIRIT, NONE HAVE SEEN the FACE OF GOD. SO how can one KNOW and HEAR a GOD THAT NONE have SEEN HIS FACE?? if it is not BY The HEARING OF HIS WORD, BY FAITH??????
    FAITH comes by hearing. and Hearing by the WORD!
    TRUTH has come to you today or at least truth as HE has shown me to be truth. IF you do not understand nor doubt anything that I have said in this post????? YOU HAVE every right to seek out HIS TRUTH for yourself . within the pages of the BOOK OF MANY BOOKS HE HAS HAD WRITTEN for us.
    MALACHI 3;16: BE MY GUEST

  9. Anonymous says:

    Hi Marty;
    Of course none of us that have any real sense of Life and love for those that we care about want to have them have to suffer an unwanted pregnacy. SO WHY DO WE NOT TEACH OUR CHILDREN THAT IT IS NOT RIGHT and IT IS UNDENIALBLY A WRONG thing to do TO HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS outside of MARRIAGE?? WHY ARE WE NOT TEACHING OUR CHILDREN THAT CHILDREN ARE A GIFT from GOD????
    MAYBE this is because we have gotten so laxs about what IS PROPER and RIGHT to do in the first place..
    WE teach instead to USE PROTECTION which is perfectly fine for a married couple that is not ready for a child or for whatever reason they do not want a family. BUT IS THAT ANY REASON to TEACH OUR CHILDREN THAT sex is ok to perform and GO BY CONDEMNS and PILLS so you do not have to worry about having a baby???
    SORRY for being old fashioned here. BUT IT WAS A DISGRACE to have a PREGNANCY with no husband when I was a teenager. IT WAS NOT SOMETHING we were proud of BUT ASHAMED WE HAD LET ourselves get in such a situation. FOR ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS WE WILL BE JUDGED BY GOD!!! if NOT BY OTHERS of men.. and GUILT, STRESS, and SIN KILLS US ALL IN THE END.
    YES WE ALL MUST DIE ONCE.. I do not know anyone that has been in the flesh visable mankind that has not died I have a husband, sister, a mother, dad, and friends that have all died this physical death we all must die. YET I ALSO KNOW and have a promise of a LIFE that is NOT AS this one. THAT too shall come to pass just as many promises of God have already come to pass in my life. GOD HAS NOT LIED about anything as yet , so I do not believe HE has lied at all about the future to come either.
    Tesitimony of Jesus Christ is the spirit of Prophecy and He will return. IT is written and so it shall come to pass someday and some hour. ONLY the FATHER KNOWS the hour and day of His coming. BUT COME HE WILL.. and His reward will be with HIM when He does come.
    ANYONE CAN DOUBT HIM , HIS WORD< HIS PROMISES, HIS TRUTHS, BUT ALL THAT KNOW HIM, KNOW HE DOES NOT LIE about anythig He has said and done or will do in the future. Prophecy is what has not been seen and manifested yet. ONCE prophecy comes to pass then it is KNOWN TO BE TRUTH and it is no longer prophecy but fulfilled prophecy. The OT was and is history, and prophecy of what was to come, the NT was the fulfillment of what the Old told would come to pass, REVELATION is JUST THAT. REVELATION of HIS SON CALLED JESUS the risen CHRIST. Telling us what has been is and will be .. all right there to be HEARD, SEEN, and BELIEVED. NONE of us are PERFECT.. BUT WE ARE THAT WHICH IS being SHAPED, MOLDED, and MADE PERFECT IN HIM. LIKE IT OR NOT we are ONLY CLAY VESSELS with an INNER SOUL that must be born again before we can enter into HIS KINGDOM. WE can learn of this REBIRTH in JOHN 3; and are explicitly told NOT TO MARVEL AT THIS being told we MUST BE BORN AGAIN!!! FAITH TO BELIEVE AND KNOW HIS WORDS ARE TRUE and will come to pass JUST AS HE HAS said. WE cannot please GOD without FAITH. IF we LOVE HIM we want to please HIM.

  10. Anonymous says:

    About the Cartoon above.
    “ALL RELIGIONS ARE THE SAME”
    No all religions are not the same. Religion is a belief , and there are many beliefs to be believed and had by many people. therefore that means that a not all beliefs are truth or the right ways of the right way and GODS WAY …
    THERE is only one word, one God, One baptism, and one WAY to the HEAVENLY FATHER GOD ALMIGHTY, OUR CREATOR HEAVENLY FATHER, HOLY SPIRIT AND HIS KINGDOM with HIM RULING ….
    WE are told to SEEK YE FIRST the kingdom of God and all these things will be given unto you. WHAT things?? HE HAS told us that also. BUT to find out what things one must be able to READ, HEAR , SEE, what HE has said and done.
    IF you do not seek then you can not find.. To many could care less and only want GOD and HIS help when THEY FALL ON BAD times. or in an emergency they cry out to HIM.. BY NAME!!
    “JESUS CHRIST” “GOD” “GOD ALMIGHTY”
    I wonder how many in CRISIS and having only a moment to cry out CALL OUT ” OH HELL” “SATAN” “LUCIFER” “DEVIL” “DESTROYER”
    Who would you rather trust to answer you?? and SAVE YOU FROM DESASTER???
    Mar 9:37 Whosoever shall receive one of such children in my name, receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me, receiveth not me, but him that sent me.
    Jhn 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give [it] you.
    Jhn 16:24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.
    Jhn 16:26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:
    WE have now a heavenly Sanctuary that we can go BODLY before the throne of God in JESUS NAME. and THOSE whom KNOW HIM AS LORD will be heard. BY the FATHER IN HEAVEN.
    Hebrews 9: 1:-28:
    MANY religions and beliefs and do's and don't's BUT there is still only one ONE LORD, FAITH, ONE BAPTISM. IT is HIS WAY or IT is the WRONG WAY!!!
    God is SEEKING A people that will worship HIM in spirit and truth.
    HAVING a LIE in your heart GOD KNOWS no truth is there.
    WE can LIE to people BUT WE CANNOT get away with LIEING TO OR IN FRONT OF GOD!! NOT EVERYONE remembers and knows HIM but HE on the other hand KNOWS WHO ARE HIS and WHO IS HEARING HIM.
    I do not know who believes and does not in here. I do know of whom I am of and in whom I believe. I do not say that as a boast. BUT as a TESTIMONY OF that which is within me and witnesses to me.. THE CROSS, the BLOOD, the RESURRECTION , IS true and real. Cannot get through the blood and past the cross unless you get to the cross first.

  11. Anonymous says:


        Dear Suzanne

       You missed that it was a secularist who was caring the sign. It is true that the world has a misconception of God, but they do not know him. Where on the other hand Christians are suppose to know him but often do not show it. There is a lot more I will write, but this has been a long day. So I will close by saying I hope the Lord has been good to you on this Mother

  12. Anonymous says:

    Hi Marty and Good day to you. :):)
    Your Quote*****So the question is, should the Church dictate public policy to the State? Do you think it is right for any religion to deny those who vote contrary to the opinion of the Church?*****
    I had a very nice Mothers day. Very full and very tired But I enjoyed it very much. Thank you for the blessing.
    Marty I have you on my mailing list as you know. But I do not know if you are male or female. Guess is, male sorry if I am wrong.
    Now to the quote. I am of no denomination Other then a believer in Jesus Christ as the risen SON of GOD come in the flesh. In other words I adhere to the teaching Of the GOSPEL as taught by those of the OT and the NT and what is written In Revelation Of Jesus Christ. I happen to believe that ALL mankind has it's beginning with GOD ALMIGHTY OUR CREATOR, HEAVENLY FATHER. It is up to the individual to decide for themselves JUST WHO and what they believe GOD TO BE. and whether to deny HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON or RECIEVE HIM as SAVIOR. thereby being SAVED BY THIS ONE whom has already SHED HIS BLOOD, TOOK THEIR SIN, SUFFERED FOR ALL their INIQUITIES, and DIED ON the CROSS of CALVARY FOR US so we would not have to SUFFER such a death as this. and then was risen to life again and IS NOW and forever will be ALIVE and well and also HAVING HIS WORD written upon the hearts of men that whom have believed and RECIEVED HIS BAPTISM that was spoken about told of and promised to be given BY JOHN the Baptist and Jesus Christ Himself.
    AS FOR ANY ORGANIZED RELIGION TELLING ANYONE THAT THEY HAVE TO VOTE A CERTAIN WAY AND FOR A CERTAIN PERSON??????? that is not up to the Pastor, Pope, Minister, or any other person religious or otherwise to tell anyone who and how to vote. PERIOD!! That is what AMERICA is all about. BEING FREE TO MAKE your own JUDGMENT on who you want to vote for, according to what you can l;earn and find out about the canidates and then choose whom YOU BELIEVE will be the best man or woman for the POSITION that the voteing is for. The only consideration for one to make is IF the canidate is a MORAL STANDUP FOR THE RIGHT AS the best of HIS KNOWLEDGE as to what is GOOD FOR the whole OF the people HE IS GOING TO SERVE!!!!!!!! IN this case the people of HIS COUNTRY AND LAND!!! ALL POLITICIANS ARE TO SERVE US!!!!! and do what is GOOD FOR the whole OF OUR PEOPLE AND LAND, and that INCLUDES ALL the EARTH AS ALL MANKIND IS INVOLVED ON this earth.. THEIR FIRST AND FORMOST DUTY is to PROTECT US, AMERICA, FROM ALL THE EVIL THAT is ON THIS EARTH. MEANING WEEDING OUT the WICKEDNESS and DEALING with that TO the best of their ability FOR the PROTECTION OF ALL PEOPLE!!! IN OTHERWORDS try to have PEACE MADE between MEN< BUT when that fails and they MURDER and SLAUGHTER INNOCENT people BECAUSE OF A PERSON NOT wanting to BOW TO A DICTATORS RULE BUT WANTS TO HAVE FREEDOM TO CHOOSE who their RULER AND LAWGIVER IS!!! then what??????????? WE AS CHRISTIANS !!! have ONE LAWGIVER>> and THAT LAWGIVER HAS TEN LAWS TO ABIDE BY FOR ALLMANKIND NOT JUST SOME.. THEY ARE UNIVERSAL LAWS. AND NONE ARE TO BE EXEMPT FROM THEM. BUT THEY ARE just the same. IN some parts of the EARTH and AMERICA INCLUDED.
    IF ANYONE MURDERS OR SHEDS INNOCENT BLOOD TO CAUSE DEATH???????? GOD HAS GIVEN the PUNISHMENT FOR THAT!!!!!!! WE HAVE become so CIVILIZED THAT WE NO LONGER PUNISH THE MURDERER WHEN PUNISHMENT for INNOCENT SHEDDING OF BLOOD is due. THIS does not mean that MERCY cannot and should not be shown to some for DEATH of another. and THERE ARE guidelines for that also GIVEN BY GOD ALMIGHTY.
    GOD has a LAW against STEALING,,, BUT AGAIN THEFT is TAKEN AS A MINOR THING unless it amounts to a BIG sum of money MAYBE. BUT for the most part a slap on the wrist is about all one gets. FOR TAKING what is not theirs in the first place. CAUSE LOSS and PAIN TO ANOTHER. AGAIN GOD HAS given a punishment for this and it is not to CUT OFF a HAND. BUT TO MAKE RETROBUTION .. There are laws set down for each and every Law that is broken. INCLUDING THE ROYAL LAW!!! of LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.
    WE PAY EVERYTIME for breaking this law, and the LOVE THY GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART MIND AND SOUL!,
    WE AS MANKIND PAY EVERY DAY, FOR the BREAKING OF THESE TWO LAWS.. FOR just as JESUS SAID and IT is written.
    YOU HAVE that which judges you. “The WORD I HAVE spoken SHALL JUDGE YOU IN THE LAST DAY!” John 12;48:
    WE whom have RECIEVED His Baptism BECAUSE OF OUR FAITH in that whom He has sent? We are those that walk and live and are of His Spirit, and we No longer live as we did before. WE do not have the HATES, and ENVIES, and LIE as those whom have NOT RECIEVED thos TRUTH that WE know and TESTIFY TO as being REAL alive and true within our hearts and minds. BEING and HAVING HIS WORDS FULFILLED in OUR LIVES just as IT has been written and GIven to us TO BELIEVE IN BY FAITH!!
    REMEMBER THIS!! without FAITH , NONE CAN PLEASE GOD OUR HEAVENLY FATHER.
    OUR TESTIMONY and OUR VERY LIVES we LIVE testify to HIS REALITY and TRUTH . BUT THE TRUTH ELUDES and is not seen BY THOSE whom DO NOT BELIEVE and HAVE FAITH IN THAT WHOM has been SENT!!! which may I add IS the FIRST AND ONLY WORK OF GOD TO be DONE BY MANKIND!! “BELIEVE IN THAT WHOM HE SENT!” John 6;29: This is the work of GOD,
    IF ONE does not do this work first then NONE can do the WORK that they have been sent to fulfill and do . FOR they FIRST HAVE TO believe IN THAT WORD THAT is GIVEN .
    GOD the FATHER WAS and IS THAT FOREVER WORD!! there is NO OTHER WORD OR TRUTH that any of us should be living by and trusting in to do what is right to do. FOR IF IT WERE NOT for us BEING GIVEN this word we would never have known what SIN WAS or what is GOOD TO DO.
    FOR RIGHT IN THE VERY BEGINNING that MAN that GOD CREATED SINNED, BY DISOBEYING the HEAVENLY FATHER.
    and MANKIND CONTINUES IN THEIR DISOBEDIENCE TO HIM!!!! until such a time as THEY come to a place where they either have to believe or they will be judged by GOD THAT VERY WORD HE HAS SPOKEN.. and LET me show you what that judgment is.
    IN DUETERONOMY First; Ch 24;16: Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor shall children be put to death for their fathers, a PERSON shall BE PUT TO DEATH FOR HIS OWN SIN.
    What GREATER SIN can any of us do anymore, then to DENY THAT VERY WORD HE HAS SENT TO US, TO TEACH US and BRING US INTO ALL TRUTH??? THAT VERY HOLY SPIRIT that is that promise that was made and is fullfilled in all that CAN and do RECIEVE HIM through that faith that we all have had a measure of GIVEN BY OUR HEAVENLY FATHER right from the beginning. ???
    Second; Ch. 30; 19:20: “I call heaven and earth as witnesses TODAY against YOU, that I have set before you LIFE and DEATH, blessing and cursing; therefore CHOOSE LIFE, that BOTH YOU and your DESCENDANTS may LIVE; that you may love the LORD your GOD, that you may obey His voice, and that you may cling to HIM; for HE IS YOUR LIFE and the LENGTH of YOUR DAYS; and that you may dwell in the land which the LORD SWORE to YOUR FATHERS, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give them. ”
    The LAWs were written upon STONE, When JESUS CHRIST CAME we then RECIEVE HIS BAPTISM of HIS HOLY SPIRIT. and HIS LAW that HE gave LOVE GOD, and LOVE THY NEIGHBOR, is WRITTEN UPON our heart.
    THIS CANNOT be ACCOMPLISHED without first having FAITH TO BELIEVE IN WHAT IS WRITTEN , and MALACHI tells us that THE LORD GOD HIMSELF HAD A BOOK WRITTEN FOR ALL that FEAR THE LORD, and MEDITATE ON HIS NAME.
    WE MEDITATE ON JESUS NAME. WE PRAY TO THE FATHER IN JESUS NAME, WE TESTIFY TO HIS NAME and HIS BEING and HIS BAPTISM, BUT FEW IF ANY BELIEVE THIS TRUTH when we come telling and testifying to HIM and truth CALLING US and HIM and THE HOLY SPIRIT THAT is within a LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!
    MAY I AGAIN REMIND ALL THAT ARE READING THIS POST!!
    TO Read Mark 4; 10:-41: and Matthew 12; 31:–39:
    also John 3; 5:-21:
    If by the time you have read this whole posting and read all the SCRIPTURES QUOTED or told to read and you still DENY, TRUTH .
    THEN I leave you and your soul in the hands of God where it has been all along. BUT REMEMBER JUDGMENT IS HIS in the end. and when HE returns??? HIS REWARD is with HIM . and HE will COME AGAIN. and ONLY the FATHER know when that will be.
    OUR LIFE really is IN HIS HAND.. IF DUETERONOMY IS TRUE.
    Hsa 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
    THE knowledge of HIS TRUTH has been given to all that have read this today. DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR I AM BUT A MANKIND SUCH AS YOURSELF.
    IF anything I have testified to you this day is a LIE. Then may GOD forgive me for NOT having HIS WISDOM TO KNOW what HIS WORD that is written is saying .. MAY HE open up my heart more to UNDERSTAND better. For if I have no understanding when He shows me something in His word that is written , then how can any believe in what is told them by that which is within.
    IN JESUS NAME I PRAY, Amen

  13. Anonymous says:

    Sue, none of those things make it a baby! It's not a baby until it can survive out side of the woman normally. I just don't believe that my body is any business of the government. I saw a good bumper sticker that said, “Abortion – don't like them, then don't have one!” I think that says it all. I'm glad that I've never had to make the choice but I should have the right to choose. I hope that I'm not insulting your believes, but those are just mine.

  14. Anonymous says:

    Hello Jessica; I am really glad you have never had to make that choice also. Thank GOD I Have never had to make that choice either. YET I KNOW in my heart that even today at the age of 64 soon to be 65 that if BY SOME MIRACLE of GOD I GOT PREGNANT there is no way I would ever have THAT which I have concieved aborted. OF COURSE I Have no intention of ever being able to ever be in danger of having another pregnacy. and of course being a widow and not remarried and not being sexually active I Would know that it will not happen. I neither plan on having any sexual relation with anyone if they are not my husband and I am not looking for marriage at all.
    THE BOTTOM LINE being that I neither want another child and THANK GOD I do not have to be concerned about HAVING ANOTHER. YET I am just saying that YES ALL THAT LIVE in this world have choices to make and WE WILL SUFFER the consequences of the CHOICES WE MAKE. whether GOOD CHOICES or bad ones. we will HAVE good or bad CONSEQUENCES. YOU MIGHT CALL them curses or blessings. OF COURSE if you do not believe in what GOD HAS said and had written about those curses and blessings then I suppose none of us would have to worry about the chices we make in life we now live at all anyway would we. FOR IF there is no CURSES FOR WRONG DOING, DISOBEDIENCE TO what GOD HAS said about what is right and wrong then there definitly is no PUNISHMENT INVOLVED with what we CHOOSE TO DO IS THERE> therefore NO SUCH thing as SUFFERING any CONSEQUENCES or CURSES for DOING WRONG!!! for there is not right or wrong in the first place .. all we do is OK TO DO even the evikl and wicked things that men do to others LIKE MURDER< LIYING< CHEATING< STEALING< SHEDDING BLOOD UNTO DEATH OF ANOTHER HUMAN BEING??? AND A FETUS HAS NO HEART NO BLOOD NO LIFE NOT ARMS NO LEGS NOTHING AT ALL TO GIVE IT LIFE UNTIL IT HITS THIS PHYSICAL WORLD AND IS BREATHING THE AIR WE BREATH RIGHT??? IT IS A LIFELESS FORM OF NOTHINGNESS AND NOT A BABY OR A HUMAN BEING BECAUSE IT IS NOT OUTSIDE THE WOMB!!! STRANGE,, thAt something with no life in it is MATUREING AND GROWING and BECOMING A FULL GROW BABY THAT sucks it's thumb in utero, TURNS and KICKS, and HAS A BEATING HEART with BLOOD which is what is GIVING THAT which is within LIFE AND NOURISHMENT TO GROW AT ALL otherwise without this hEART and BOOD there would be no LIFE AT ALL BECAUSE !!!!! GOD SAYS LIFE IS IN THE BLOOD!!! that is why we are not allowed to shed innocent blood. AS HE HAS SAID YOUR BLOOD SHALL BE SHED, you take the LIFE OF AN ONNOCENT ON PURPOSE BY WILLFULLY DOING SO and THAT IS CALLED MURDER!! I do however understand that many cannot understand that do not agree with that truth. YET IT does not make it any less a TRUTH of what God has said had written and HE ALSO TELLS us what the PUNISHMENT IS for THE CRIME OF WILLFULLY TAKING ANOTHERS LIFE that is INNOCENT of any crime.. what is a CRIME????? BUT BREAKING OF THE LAW>> THOU SHALT NOT MURDER. and THE CHILDREN TO NOT DIE for the CRIME of the FATHERS. the CHILDREN shall BE JUDGED for their own sins. and the FATHERS shall be judged for their own sins, what is the worst sin any man or woman or parent could ever do??? to be JUDGED HARSHLY BY GOD FOR??? TAKING the LIFE OF Their UNBORN CHILD,, that DID NOT ASK TO be CONCIEVED BUT MAY HAVE been CONCIEVED BY The SINS OF The FATHER and MOTHER> and that INOCENT IS then MURDERED BY IT”S OWN PARENTS THAT MADE THE MISTAKE OF CONCIEVING A CHILD they never wanted in the first place. all because they HAD A RIGHT TO MAKE A CHOICE TO HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS even as HUSBAND and WIFE without FIRST REALIZING that SEXUAL RELATIONS between a man and a woman CAUSE PREGNACY unless abated in some way. BY either abstaining OR using some PROTECTION of some KIND UNTIL they DECIDE they want a CHILD. SOME ARE NOT meant to have a child. MAYBE I do not know BUT WHEN WE MAKE CHOICES we best know IF they are for the GOOD or for bad.. and if we do not know the difference then we best be finding out what is right and wrong to do. SO one can MODIFY the way they DO MAKE CHOICES.
    Some have learned , some have not , some will , and some may never learn..
    The word TESTIFIES TO THIS ALSO . SAYING and HAVING BEEN WRITTEN. “My people are DESTROYED because of LACK of knowledge.” HOW CAN ONE HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE of what is right and wrong when they do not even believe in or trust in or know the ONE and ONLY LAW GIVER that has GIVEN US the LAW in the first place.
    IF IT were not for the LAWGIVER there would be NO LAW TO BREAK yet because there was LAW RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING GIVEN BY GOD ALMIGHTY WE LEARNED what SIN RIGHT and WRONG IS!!!!!!!!!! IF nothing else we MUST COME TO KNOW sooner or later that TO DISOBEY GOD and what HE has said to do and not to do about MURDER< LIEING< STEALING< LOVING< AND HATEING IS SOMETHING WE BETTER LEARN the right and wrong way or we shall BE CURED< OR BLESSED depending on the choice WE MAKE ABOUT BREAKING HIS LAW!!!!! WE HAVE been LEFT with one law that will FULFILL all BUT NONE EVEN KNOW IT let alone KEEP IT!! THIS LAW if KEPT it will OVERRIDE AND none of the OTHERS will be broken. IT IS A HEART CHANGE A MIND CHANGE< A SPIRIT REBIRTH> THAT ONLY GOD CAN GIVE. BUT IF ONE CANNOT EXCEPT THE SON OF GOD AND RECIEVE HIS TRUTH that has been written about HIM and OF HIM> then they cannot believe IN the WORD whom was the FATHER GOD IN HEAVEN THAT STARTED IT ALL> BY CREATING the HEAVENS and the EARTH.
    GOD HAS SAID and HAD WRITTEN LIFE !!!!!!!! IS IN THE BLOOD!!!!!!! whether you agree or not BLOOD is what CAUSES ANY LIVING HUMAN BEING TO MATURE AND GROW IN ANY WOMB. I would never ever QUESTION GOD'S WISDOM, and HIS way about GIVING LIFE to any of us. FOR CAN any of us even begin to understand how GOD CAUSES a LIFE TO MATURE in a womb?? FROM one LITTLE joining of SPERM with OVEM and OUT of that JOINING a HUMAN BEING will imerge and be a CHILD A BABY OF TWO EARTHEN HUMANS that GOD HAS PLACED HERE on this earth THROUGH the same process as was with them????
    WHEN WILL WE AS human beings ever come to understand that IF GOD never was then JUST HOW did we ever get HERE without FIRST BLOOD being SHED??????? FOR there is no LIFE without the BLOOD. THERE IS NO LIFE without it. period.
    BUT YET INNOCENT UNBORN BABIES DIE DAILY ON THIS EARTH with BLOOD FLOWING LIKE A RIVER out of the womb of the MOTHERS that have decided to NOT CONTINUE to have this LIFE LIVING CONCEIVED JOINING OF A SPERM the FATHER, and the OVEM the MOTHER, TO CONTINUE TO MAUTER AND GROW AND HAVE LIFE OUTSIDE INTO THIS WORLD BUT end it instead INSIDE the womb.
    HOW ODD!!! JUST ONE LETTER turns a PLACE OF LIFE. and HOPE!! into a TOMB of DEATH forever. for a LIFE THAT never had a chance to imerge from darkness into the LIGHT !!!!!!!!!! ALL BECAUSE TWO HUMAN BEINGS DECIDED TO DO what CAUSES A CONCEPTION AND REALLY did not GIVE any thought TO the CONSEQUENCES OF the CHOICE they were chooseing .. A POSSIBILITY OF HAVING A NEW LIFE begun …
    CHOICES WE ALL HAVE THEM TO MAKE and for the most part most of us make BAD ONES until we LEARN THE LESSONS of what happens when making BAD CHOICES wich will always CAUSE something to be a CURSE FOR US even when we DO NOT RECOGNIZE IT AS such. BUT yes it is all written and told to us before it happens. and NONE ARE INNOCENT BUT ARE GUILTY .. FOR IF IT WERE NOT FOR THE FIRST MANS SIN, the SECOND would not have had to DIE TO WASH ALL SIN and SAVE OUR DYING SOULS.
    BY this time you have quit reading and could care less about what has been written HERE or in SCRIPTURE. IF YOU CAN STILL say. having an abortion is NOT MURDER of an INNOCENT GROWING MATUREING HUMAN BEING THAT HAS LIFE COURSE THROUGH THE VEINS!!!!! THERE IS BLOOD AT THE VERY FIRST STRIKING OF the SPERM TO the EGG. and a NEW BLOOD IS MADE TO NOURISH THIS NEW BEGINNING OF ANOTHER LIFE!!! and IT CAN be SNUFFED OUT BY the HAND OF GOD!! or it can be DESTROYED BY MAN . MEN CAN BE WONDERFUL DESTROYERS even OF THEMSELVES let along another HUMAN BEING. IT is NOTHING ANYMORE TO TAKE ANOTHER LIFE . after all what is man anyway but a LIFE to be TAKEN BY ANOTHER. EVEN THE MOTHERS ARE following IN THIS DEATH and DESTRUCTION BY KILLING THEIR OWN CHILDREN. NOT JUST IN UTERO BUT NOW even after they have had them and they are IN this world GOD IS NOT GOING TO STRIVE with mankind forever .. JUDGMENT WILL come ….

  15. Anonymous says:

    Don't take this the wrong way, but at your age if you got pregnant it would be a miracle and I would think that God had a hand in it and it would be wrong to abort it. I just don't think every pregnancy falls in that category. At least not the first term ones, but like I said that is my opinion and that is all it is.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Golly Gee you mean we are in here togethre at the same time??? How often can that happen:):):):)
    I know it is JUST your OPINION and so is MINE if you want to consider it an OPINION. BUT MY is based on more then MY OPINION about what I THINK but what I know is RIGHT to do and wrong to do… and MAYBE That is the BIGGEST difference in any of us. some know and some do not. all because they have not wanted to hear the truth about what is right to do and what is wronmg to do in the first place LIKE for instance the RIGHT WAY IS THE WAY or if it is not THE WAY then IT must be qwrong way. and who pray tell wants to be going the wrong way . PERSONALLY I PREFER the right way.

  17. Anonymous says:

    Yeah I guess we both were up late. I

  18. Anonymous says:

    Goodnight to you I will be heading that way soon, Have sonme dishes to do if I do not fall asleep while standin g doing them:):)
    Showed a movie tonight, and have to fix breakfast for at least 31 people in the morning meaning an early rising like at least 5 or 5:30 am. LATER JESS..

  19. Anonymous says:

        To Suzanne,

       I need to do some work on the blog it has taken me more time than I like to get back to you. Some of these pages work differently, but on the main page if you click on the posters name a screen there will be a pop up window showing what the person wants us to know about them.

        I am trying to reply to all of your post in at once, if I miss something you will have to over look it. You said;

    Of course none of us that have any real sense of Life and love for those that we care about want to have them have to suffer an unwanted pregnacy. SO WHY DO WE NOT TEACH OUR CHILDREN THAT IT IS NOT RIGHT and IT IS UNDENIALBLY A WRONG thing to do TO HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS outside of MARRIAGE?? WHY ARE WE NOT TEACHING OUR CHILDREN THAT CHILDREN ARE A GIFT from GOD????

       I would add a lot more but these are the beginnings of the solutions that we need to be talking about, for when we just talk about abortion we reach an impasse. As I said it is such an emotional issue that most people get locked in the pros and cons, rather than look for the solutions.

       I would remind that abortion is a complex issue and so are the solutions. Hillary Clinton had it right when she said it takes a whole village to raise a child. Unfortunately, we have become a selfish people unwilling to be self-sacrificing.

    But realize this, that in the lat days difficult times will come. For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God; holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; and avoid such men as these. For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses, always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. (2 Timothy 3: 1 – 7)

        We as a society must learn how to put aside our personal desires and work for the common good. Children learn more from our actions than they do from our words. The first and most important thing that we can do to curtain abortions by our youths is to live truly holy lives. That of course is only done by a total surrender to the Lord and allowing his Holy Spirit to fully sanctify us, but this is rarely an overnight miracle. For most people it takes a life time of yielding to the work of the Holy Spirit.

       When our children are raised by godly parents who are sanctified the battle is half won. One of the reasons that abortions were 25% lower with Clinton was a better economy, for if parents have enough money so that they can spend more time with their children all of their lives, it is more likely that they will be able to influence them. I saw a very good commercial about drugs which said, “If you stop talking to you kids a 4, don’t expect them to start listening at 14!” Too many people are not as commented to the up bring of their children as they should be. But this is just part of the problem; I have long advocated that Christian parents stop talking about prayers in the schools and start praying with their children before sending them to school. I could keep going on but it is getting late, as I said these are only part of the solution.

  20. Anonymous says:

       I meant to end with this I think you will like them. I gave the link where you can find them.

     

    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/ani1.html

  21. Anonymous says:

    For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses, always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. (2 Timothy 3: 1

  22. Anonymous says:

    For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses, always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. (2 Timothy 3: 1

  23. Anonymous says:

    Do you really think that abortion is good form of birth control?

  24. Anonymous says:

    Don

  25. Anonymous says:

    Blondie;; I do hope you were replying to Jessica, for i do not agree with abortion for any reason whatsoever.

  26. Anonymous says:

    Simplistic???? God's TRUTH is very SIMPLY understood if one is willing to believe in what He has said and done for us.
    it is all about that measure of faith He has given each one.
    None can please GOD the FATHER without faith, and FAITH HE GAVE EACH a measure of. EVEN FAITH the size of a mustard seed can grow into great FAITH. with watering and food … BUT ANY SEED WILL DIE without water and FOOD. all SEEDS NEED nourishment to grow andmature into the FULFGROWN PLANT IT was meant to be.
    Faith!!! comes by hearing and hearing comes by the WORD, who's WORD?? GOD'S WORD.
    TO many do not read HIS WORD MUCH LESS believe what HE HAS said and done. AND who's FAULT IS THAT???
    WE ALL HAVE IT. TO TEACH US and LEARN BY. BUT IT IS GREATLY IGNORED.
    “The LORD SAY'S “My people are destroyed because they lack knowledge.”
    Men have all sorts of head knowledge but little wisdom and some have none.
    “Fear of the LORD is the beginning of Wisdom.” I did not say that first GOD HAD IT WRITTEN FIRST for all to hear, see, and KNOW!!!
    None READ, SEE, NOR KNOW much about HIM for they have forgotten WHO IS THE HOLY HEAVENLY FATHER CREATOR OF ALL THINGS!!!!!

  27. Anonymous says:

    Suz,
    Sorry, I was talking to Marty. He is nice, but I thought his post was a bit simplistic.
    CG

  28. Anonymous says:

    Hi Blondie;
    I am sorry also In a way. But then again If I had not have MISUNDERSTOOD who YOU were replying to you neither would have had MY REPLY to read and possibly learn something from it.
    Whether you read it and Got anything from it only you know what GOOD or bad YOU may have recieved from My post.
    The POINT IS I HOPE YOU CAME away FROM READING MY post and RECIEVED a bit of something That YOU know is truth and can accept it as such and have no doubts again about that thing whatever it may be.
    There has to be something that You see and understand as being true somewhere in the post :):):):)
    GOD WORKS in MYSTERIOUS WAYS to we who need HIS SPIRIT to understand HIM to begin with.
    YET ONCE KNOWING HIM there NO LONGER REMAINS MUCH MYSTERY AT ALL in what HE has said and done for us.
    Which brings to mind these TWO SCRIPTURE VERSES out of many that have MUCH TO LEARN FROM.
    IICorinth. 3; 14:15: But their minds were blinded. for until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament because the veil is taken away IN Christ. But even to this day when MOSES is read the veil lies on their HEART.
    Habakkuk 2;2: Then the LORD answered me and said; “Write the vision and make it plain on tablets, That he may run who reads it.
    Revelation 1;1:-3: The revelation of Jesus Christ which GOD gave Him to show His servants things which shortly(Quickly,Swiftly) must take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant JOHN. who bore witness to the word of God, and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, to all things that He saw. Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near.”
    If one reads all the OLD and NEW TESTAMENTS one FINDS himself at the end of the BOOKS!! that GOD HAS HAD written. and FIND THEY ARE in the LAST BOOK WRITTEN, BY JOHN that wrote what GOD showed HIM OF what was, is, and will be.
    The BOOK of REVELATION is EXACTLY THAT A revelation!!!!!!! a REVELATION TO WHAT?? TRUTH .. the TRUTH of GODS WORD. HIS REALITY and HIS PROMISE THAT will be fulfilled. JUST as IT has been said and written to come to pass.
    GOD MADE MANY PROMISES both BLESSINGS and CURSINGS, and HE also HAS created the end from the beginning. and the end that HE has CREATED. will definitly come to pass. GOD HAS NOT LIED about anything HE HAS said OR DONE.
    Anyone that DENIES HIS WORD will definitly FIND THAT GOD IS REAL. JESUS CHRIST IS HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON AND HIS HOLY SPIRIT IS ALSO REAL and HAS a presence. IN the LIVES of all that have RECIEVED, BELIEVED, and CONFESSED HIM as The ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD, that was risen from death.
    It is written that EVERY KNEE WILL BOW and KNOW HE IS LORD. This also will be fulfilled just as written.
    Remember this. PROPHECY is PROPHECY AS LONG AS IT HAS NOT been YET FULFILLED.. AS SOON AS IT IS FULFILLED IT is NO LONGER A PROPHECY but ONE that has been FULFILLED.
    The BIBLE IS FULL of PROPHECY. Some FULFILLED and SOME UNFULFILLED.
    ONE MORE VERSE. The TESTIMONY of JESUS CHRIST is the spirit of Prophecy. MANY HAVE come to testify of HIM.
    HOW is it so many can come testifying to someone that so many millions of people have read about, believed in, and CLAIM to know as their SAVIOR and LORD that they believe has SAVED THEM FROM DEATH and will have ETERNAL LIFE.
    IF THEY HAVE not had proof of this Someone being a REAL TRUE and someone who was BORN over 2000 years agao?????
    I have my proof. and I believe there are many many many more just like me, that also have their proof. IF any of us do not have our proof. then we lie about what we testify to and of. and TO LIE about HIM IS the GEATEST SIN OF ALL that any human being could commit. and TO SIN after knowing and having knowledge of truth is to have no longer a Sacrifice for sin.
    HEBREWS 10; 26: For if we sin willfully after having knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sin.
    ANYONE that comes with the TESTIMONY of JESUS CHRIST surely better not lie about their testimony now should they??????
    and YES I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO THE FATHER. and that is THROUGH FAITH, “BELIVE IN THAT whom HE HAS SENT.” John 6;29:
    FOR THIS AS I have BEEN SAYING for so very long IS THE WORK OF GOD!! and IF THIS FIRST WORK is not done then NO OTHER work, any may do will mean anything at all.
    WE are not saved by works. WE ARE HOWEVER JUDGED by our works.

  29. Anonymous says:

    Sue,
    I have read some of your posts and I think they are very good. So please don

  30. Anonymous says:

    Thank you for giving your name. It is appreciated. Carolyn;
    I understand I have no problem others telling me about how long my posts are or the way they are typed. YES I do go on and on most of the time. Even my kyds, say”Mom get to the point!” I have come to realize that when one is talking or posting or emailing what the Spirit gives it can get quite lengthy THAT is ONLY BECUASE WE being Human beings do not just QUOTE SCRIPTURE. BUT GIVE understanding to it. THIS is NOT ALWAYS the best to do either. DEPENDING on the circumstances and who is getting the message.
    When one is DEALING with the word of GOD, the one RECIEVING IT MUST be told TRUTH NOT CONSTRUED from what the SCRIPTURE Is SAYING. for SCRIPTURE IS the WORD THAT GOD has left for us to KNOW OF HIM what HE HAS said and done and why. IT is HIS SPIRIT THAT gives us the understanding of what is written. That is one reason for the parables, HE TELLS us why the parables are given. JUST as HE said to the FIRST deciples, IF they could not understand this parable how would they DISCERN and UNDERSTAND the rest of them.SO HE EXPLAINED the FIRST one. GIVING A GUIDELINE for the rest. There is MUCH to learn from the parables. BUT ONE must be able to understand what is meant by them. Example; those that KNOW The SHEPHERD KNOW HIS VOICE when HE calls TO HIS OWN SHEEP.
    All should be aware that if there is evil wickedness in ones heart then HOW CAN the SPIRIT OF GOD be there?? BECAUSE GOD CANNOT be where SIN IS PRESENT. GOD does not hear the voice of those that HAVE NOT FORGIVEN. HE has said IF!! you have UNFORGIVENESS for a BROTHER?? LEAVE YOUR GIFT at the alter and go and FORGIVE then come back THEN HE will hear.
    People wonder why they do not see the blessings that others seem to be getting and having from GOD ALMIGHTY. WELL UNFORGIVENESS and DOUBTING HIS FAITHFULNESS to HIS WORD is the main reason.
    People love to hear about GOD being a loving GOD and a BLESSING GOD and HEAVENLY FATHER!! BUT tell me what kind of FATHER IS IT THAT would let their CHILD JUST GO about doing whatever they want to do without DOING something to teach them a BETTER and GOOD WAY TO behave when much of what they are doing is doing nothing but bringing DEATH and DESTRUCTION TO THEM????? I personally would have been dead by now if MY EARTHLY PARENTS HAD NOT HAVE HAD some REGULATION and RULES TO ABIBE BY>> and when I BROKE THE RULES I WAS PUNISHED SO I WOULD REALIZE THAT WRONG_DOING WAS NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED> for TO JUST be LEFT TO my own wants and will I VERY WELL could have turned out to be NOTHING BUT A RENEGADE wicked evil dead long before the time set for me. IF GOD IS TO LOVE US SO MUCH BLOOD was SHED FOR US, then WE MUST be PRETTY IMPORTANT TO HIM . and I am knowing that OUR HEAVENLY FATHER HAS PUNISHMENTS FOR DISOBEDIENCE ALSO. BUT NOT UNTO DEATH!!! UNLESS we actually CHOSE TO DIE RATHER THEN TO JUST LEARN TO LOVE!!!!!!!!as HE HAS LOVED US.
    REMEMBER THE BLOOD!!!! this is the FINALE COVENANT between GOD ALMIGHTY AND HIS CREATED MANKIND!
    I SEE GOD IN HEAVEN.. LOOKING DOWN and SEEING the BLOOD OF JESUS this is OUR WEDDING GARMENT. WHITE ROBES PURIFIED BY HIS BLOOD THAT was shed and OUR FAITH IN THAT whom HE HAS sent.
    Remember those that are seen in REVELATION as being given white robes in the FIFTH SEAL, and also the letter to the dead church. who are dead?? those that are dead spititually.. haveing not yet being BORN AGAIN OF THE SPIRIT!! There is no entrance into the KINGDOM OF GOD without this REBIRTH.
    neither are we to marvel (think astonishing) that He has said we must be born again.
    My question is this to all who have and do deny Jesus Christ.
    “How can one be born again of the Spirit if they do not believe in their heart and confess this one ONLY Begotten SON OF GOD called Jesus who was raised from the dead and came in the flesh, that was PROPHECIED BY JOHN the BAPTIST to COME, and when HE DID then HE HIMSELF promised to send that very Spirit COMFORTER Holy Spirit baptism to them???”
    Unless of course they deny the WORD OF GOD ENTIRELY!!! and if that be the case then they SEAL their DESTINY OF DEATH TWICE just as it is written. for it is given tomen to die once. and so mankind flesh and blood visable men do die once. BUT ALL THOSE THAT DIE IN the LORD do not die a SECOND DEATH. we only DIE ONCE!! BUT ARE RAISED WITH HIM IN GLORY . HE HAS ALREADY promised US “YOU SHALL BE WHERE I AM. IN MY FATHERS HOUSE are many mansions, if it were not so I would have told you so.”
    BORN ONCE DIE TWICE, BORN TWICE DIE ONCE.
    WE are born once of water, FLESH IS FLESH and again of the Spirit, Spirit is Spirit. John 3; 5:6:

  31. Anonymous says:

    Suzanne,
    Your post might be long but they do have some good thoughts in them. I'd say more but it's late and I need to go to bed. Got a question for you, what do you think about alcohol and smoking?

  32. Anonymous says:

    Hello Blondie; What do I think about alcohol and smoking?
    I believe a BIT of wine is not bad for anyone, Especially older people although I do not like wines . But I do enjoy fresh juices yet I drink bought ones from the store. ALcohol beer vodka gin and such as this I used to drinkl a Vodka and orange when I was younger on NEW YEARS eve or maybe when OUT at some party which was not very often because we never partied much. and were not heavy drinkers of any kind of liquor or alcohol, I have not had a drink in many many years. actually since 1970 new years eve of 1969. I really never did like the taste of beer at all . SMOKING I smoked from the time I was 14 years old. CHOICE, after having the truth told to me what a bad habit it is and all about what it does to ones health and breath and clothes and so forth. AFTER MANY YEARS of smoking and really enjoying that after dinner cig. and while having conversatiion and coffee with friends, or that morning coffee. well MY husband needed to stop smoking and we made an agreement to quit. I DID HE DID NOT AFTER trying for THREE MONTHS . I smoked my last cig one evening right after we agreed at the DRS office that day. and have never had a cig. since then. NOR any other smoking or chewing or pipe and I am better for not drinkling and smoking and I do not allow smoking in my apartment. NOW AM I AGAINST EITHER FOR OTHERS> NO!!! this like many habits people get into it is their choice to smoke or not smoke drink or not drink. ALTHOUGH I am for PEOPLE HAVING the privalige of not having to put up with second hand smoke if at all possible. BECAUSE AS I have discovered when one does not smoke , the smoke can cause much discomfort for them ESPECIALLY if they have any health problems such as ashma, lung problems of any kind. I hesitate to visit in anyone apartment if they are really heavy smokers and the smoke hangs in the air. BUT I will not tell someone that IS in a room with me that alows smoking to please put it out. I would rather move away from them and their smoke. IF IT Is a problem for me.ESPECIALLY IN A PUBLIC AREA when I have the option to get away from it. the smoke. YOU DO NOT DEPRIVE ONE of a RIGHT TO SMOKE OR DRINK just because OTHERS DO NOT and DO NOT LIKE that smoke or drinking. THESE ARE INDIVIDUAL CHOICES people have every right to choose to do. YET they could be RESPECTFUL OF others when it is smoking considering the smoke does irritate eyes, lungs, and breathing for others. SO IT is NICE and COURTEOUS to ask the people near by if they MIND IF they smoke then they are being THOUGHTFUL OF OTHERS and the others then have the CHOICE TO OBLIGE their HABIT OR MOVE OR SAY I would rather you not while I am here. IF I were at a restraunt I prefer NON SMOKING. and sit there BUT when none is available I usually ignore the smoking if it is not actually being in my face. I do not recall ever asking someone to please put their cig out in any public area. although I am not allowing smoking in my home. at all anymore. and my daughter-in-law smokes so she must go downstairs and outside to smoke as it is with all that restrict smoking in their apartments because common areas are not allowed smoking either in the building but one can smoke in the courtyard and out front.

  33. Anonymous says:

    Hi Suzanne,
    I been busy, I hope you're well I don't see that you have posted recently. Cancan

  34. Anonymous says:

    Hello Jessica;
    I know I have been very busy with things here where I live. Plus have had some personal problems to iron out and SEEK GODS wisdom and word on. ALL in all I am well had a few days of Not quite up to par but I am mending and getting better. WE all have a season of quiet contemplation on what God is doing in our lives especially when It seems He has deserted us . OF COURSE HE NEVER DOES. it is we who loose touch for one reason or another. THIS LIFE we live in this world of the PHYSICAL MATERIAL VISABLE is not the LIVING we do IN HIM SPIRITUALLY. and when we loose touch with the spiritual because the PHYSICAL OVERRIDES the spirit then we can often times get knocked down a peg or two. JUST TO GET us back on the right track so we do not continue down a road of DESTRUCTION and PERISHING.
    I believe honesty is the best policy especially to be true to ourselves first and then to be true to others. and with others. BUT HONESTY CAN and does UPSET MANY especially when that HONESTY is not seen as being something they can accept. I nor none should deny what God shows them as a truth no matter what anyone else thinks believes or denies. IT is really to bad that many people miss the blessings that GOD can and will give them just because they cannot understand nor see GOD IN what is being done in their lives. YET I KNOW THAT God's will is to give us all our hearts desires If we are open to recieve them. PROBLEM being sometimes people Cannot have a desire that they know nothing about. and then when GOD brings it they deny it instead of grasping onto it and trusting in HIM to bring it into manifestation. FEAR CAN DEPRIVE US OF much that GOD HAS for us .. that will bring permanant peace and real joy and happiness.
    THERE are many things we endure in this life that either will cause us to never attain that peace and joy and happiness or we open up to HIS TRUTH AND WORD and stand on it and trust in HIM fully and completely. NOT AN EASY thing to do without building on the faith HE HAS begun in us. A SEED OF FAITH and a WORD GIVEN BY GOD that is not NOURISHED WILL eventually die and turn to nothing. YET if NOURISHED and GIVEN ALL the FOOD it needs IT will grow and flourish and mature. MY PROBLEM the seed is thrown away and is not even given the chance to be fed and nourished. BY that which has no understanding of what they have done. I HANG ONTO GOD AND HIS TRUTH and HIS WISDOM and HIS WILL and PURPOSES. FOR IN The end GOD”S WILL IS ALWAYS what will prevail. and when GODS WILL PREVAILS ALL GLORY IS HIS and NOT MANS.

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