Immigration

Written by Christianity and the Confusion on April 1st, 2006

Author: Frankie B

 

Video clip 1 (From CNN's Situation Room)            Video clip 2 (From Lou Dobbs)

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I think it's interesting that Bush is on the opposite side of his party on this issue.  Does that mean if there is an anti-immigrant bill from Congress that Bush will veto it?  I for one won't be putting any money on it.  What bothers me is the hate that some people have for the immigrant community, they should think about where their families came from. 

The reasons behind Bush's plan for amnesty and the Democratic Senators are suspect.   Corporatists want to see more immigration because it will increase the labor poor and lower wages which will translate into higher profits for the corporations.  As a Democrat I would like to think that Senators Clinton and Reed are fighting for the immigrants out of compassion for the poor, but I can't get pass the fact that NAFTA was a gift from these types of Democrats.  Corporatists owe their loyalty to enriching corporations instead of the poor.

 

Neither party can claim the high ground on immigration.  Republicans have given us artificially low wages and fought against raising the minimum wage and Democrats gave us NAFTA.   If  any party wanted to improve the living standard of average Americans they have had plenty of opportunities.

We are told that this is a Christian Nation, a Christian Nation that has forgotten the word of Christ, “What you do to the least of these you do to me.”  I'm not arguing for amnesty for these illegals, that would only allow the Corporatists to continue to exploit the poorest.  We should consider the best ways to protect the American and Mexican poor.

The argument that the illegals are doing the jobs that Americans won't do is just non-sense.  Those jobs would be done by Americans if the wages were higher, but that is the last thing that the Corporatists want.  Here is an example; 20% of all construction is being done by illegals, last I checked there are many Americans willing to do construction jobs.  These jobs pay very well unless they are under the table.

   

WHAT'S THE ANSWER

Everyone is trying to find an answer with little success.  Some people want to build a wall, but these same people would employ illegals to build it.  Does anyone have an idea what a wall would cost?  There is a type of wall that could prevent most of this.  That wall wouldn't be made of stone, wood or steal.  The wall that I'm talking about is a wall of policies. 

For starts the government needs to go after those who knowingly employ illegals and if it is found that they are being paid under the table there should be jail time for that employer.  If minimum wage had kept up with inflation over the years it would be about $11 or $12 a hour.  At those rates Americans would take the hardest jobs.  If the government was to encourage unionization instead of tearing down unions the hiring of illegals would be greatly reduced.  There are many answers such as raising the living standards in both countries, but declaring war on the illegals is not the answer.

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President Clinton on immigration                Larry King host a debate between 4 talk show hosts

    The author brought up several good points, this poll is asking what you think the answer is to the illegal immigration problem. Should we build and guard a wall between Mexico and the U. S.? Should we make these illegals felons and prosecute them? The author says “the government needs to go after those who knowingly employ illegals,” but how do we determine that they knew they had hired illegals? One way might be to prosecute anyone paying under the table. We could just say all is forgiven and give amnesty to all here allowing them to become citizens. Is the answer to improve the income leave of all these jobs so that Americans will do them and try to get Mexico to do the same?
 

25 Comments so far ↓

  1. Anonymous says:

    I watched that last one “Larry King host a debate between 4 talk show hosts” What is up with that Randy roads? “Why are we attacking human beings everyone believes in the sanctity of human beings…why are we going after people…their just people?” I'm sorry, Randy sounded like an hair head and Ed just sounded mean!
       

                                                                                                                                                   Go Bush

  2. Anonymous says:

    Randi Rhodes did great I thought and Ed didn't seem mean at all! Calling the Mexicans terrorists now that's mean! I don't remember the name of the Republican man who said that, but it's that type of hate that is making this even worse. Randi was right; they are just people like you and me.
    A wall isn't the answer, turning them into felons isn't and turning them into slaves most certainly is not the answer! Frank is right the answer is to “raising the living standards in both countries!”

  3. Anonymous says:

    To Carolyn, that was just like a Republican, attack and name call. I don't think that Randi is an air-head and if you want to talk about mean, then you should talk about Ann Coulter. I thought the article was pretty non-partisan in it's criticizing of both parties. I personally didn't like how Hillary invoked the name of Jesus. It's not that I disagreed with her or doubt that she is a Christian; I just don't like to see politicians using religion to push their message.

  4. Anonymous says:

    I didn't call Randy an airhead, I said that she sounded like one. Hillary; I just hope you Dems run her in 08. Can you say President McCain?
       

                                                                                                                                        Go Bush

  5. Anonymous says:

    Jessica,
    I agree that a wall along the whole boarder would be unfeasible, but in certain places it would help. There are some boarder cities where a fence would stop the illegal crossing. Maybe we can't send back the 11,000 all at once, but amnesty isn't the answer.
    The thing I like about this blog is the attempt to be non-partisan. Lou Dobbs is right; the Democrats are pushing for amnesty even if they don't call it that. Most Americans don't want to see amnesty for these illegals. The fact is that they broke the law in coming here and in taking jobs here. I don't see why we should let criminals go free and I include the employers in that.
    Yes, there are jobs that Americans won't do and paying more won't change that. Americans won't do the backbreaking work in the fields. That doesn't excuse the use of illegals, if those farmers need more people then the government should issue more work visas to those still in Mexico. Then those legal workers can do those jobs that we won't and when they are done they can go back home to Mexico. I'm not trying to be unfeeling, but we can only help so much. There are so many Americans that need our help that we just can't keep helping other countries.

  6. Anonymous says:

       This is from Mark Fiore it says a lot. Do you think that we might just be over reacting?

  7. Anonymous says:

    But I don't hate or fear Mexicans. I just think that they have their own country and if they want a better life they should change that country. I don't think that we need them here for anything! Why don't we have the prisoners do the jobs that no one else wants to do? At least that way they would be paying for the stay in jail.
       

                                                                                                                                  Go Bush

  8. Anonymous says:

        Do not misunderstand me, I do not support illegal immigration, but at the same time I hold no animosity towards the Mexican people. It is true that their government should do more to solve their poverty problem. Our government should place pressure for them to do that. If Mexico offered better living standards to all of it’s citizens not only would they stop flooding our country but we might actually see Americans trying to move to Mexico. The product of let hate rule any of our hearts is that we cannot enjoy the blessings that this country has to offer. I know it is irritating to hear statements like, “America stole half of Mexico’s land” “We were here first” or even “Cinco de Mayo as the day the Mexicans beat the French” when the USA was responsible from driving the French out. The way to defeat false statements is with truth and to put our egos on the back burners.

  9. Anonymous says:

    That is the answer Jess, you only see people leaving their homes for a better life. That's why you don't see Americans going to Mexico by the millions. We need a strong middle class in both nations, but that isn't what the Corporatists want. This isn't a Republican vs. Democratic Party thing; there are Corporatists in both parties.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Some people just can't tolerate people having pride in a different heritage. So what if these kids held up a Mexican flag!

  11. Anonymous says:

    How come NONE remember that ALL AMERICANS ARE IMMIGRANTS from another COUNTRY and LAND??
    WE as AMERICANS ARE MIXED NO MATTER who WE ARE.
    WE ARE HAVING ALL COLORS AND ALL PEOPLES within the BLOOD LINE one way or another . I AM SPEAKING OF COURSE BIBLICALLY HERE .. FOR IT is GOD THAT CREATED MAN NOT MAN THAT CREATED GOD > FOR MANKIND NO WAY CREATED HEAVEN ABOVE OR THE EARTH WE RESIDE ON THANK YOU ANYWAY FOR the THOUGHT. YET SORRY MANKIND IS NOT WISE ENOUGH NOR HAS THE KNOWLEDGE TO CREATE ANYTHING AS MAGNIFCENT AS THE UNIVERSE THAT THIS EARTH RESIDES IN, AND then MAKE MAN AND WOMAN TO LIVE ON THIS PLANET TO BE LIVING A LIFE ON IT until HE SAYS come BACK HOME.
    NOW as to THIS LAND OF AMERICA AND we as WHAT ARE CONSIDERED AMERICANS!! ONE NATION (PEOPLE) UNDER GOD, WITH LIBERTY AND FREEDOM FOR ALL!!!! ALL WHAT?? JUST US AS AMERICANS??? NO sorry WE are to WANT ALL MEN and woman NO MATTER where they are, who they are TO BE FREE!!!! to worship PRAISE and have LIBERTY TO PURSUE HAPPINESS, and PROSPERITY and RAISE their FAMILIES CHILDREN TO be RIGHTEOUS KIND LOVING INDIVIDUALS NOT TO HATE BUT TO LOVE EACH OTHER AND THEIR NEIGHBORS AS THEMSELVES!!! WE AS believers in the BOOK OF BOOKS the GOSPEL OF CHRIST JESUS and OUR LORD GOD ALMIGHTY . THE HOLY SCRIPTURES HE HAS AFTER ALL HAD written FOR US!! ARE TO PRAY FOR WHOM!!!!!! THE PEACE!!!!! OF JERUSALEM!!!!!! and where is JERUSALEM??? IN the MIDDLE EAST!! AND UNTIL PEACE comes there there will be no PEACE FOR ANY OF US ON THIS PLANET EARTH!!!!!!!!!!! PERIOD!!! NOW!!! would YOU RATHER OUR GOVERNMENT TURN OUR BACKS ON ALL PEOPLE AND COLORDS AND TONGUES JUST because WE DO NOT want TOP FIGHT FOR what IS RIGHT and GOOD FOR ALL MANKIND!!!!! which is to TRY IN ANY AND everyway WE CAN TO MAKE PEACE BETWEEN THE STATE OF ISRAEL! whom ARE and IS THE JEWISH PEOPLE WITH THEIR BROTHERS OR SHOULD we JUST FORGET THE whole thing and forget that GOD !!!!!! IS The GOD OF ABRAHAM!!! ISAAC! AND JACOB >> JACOB being ISRAEL!!!!!!! THAT JEWISH NATION OF ISRAEL!! OF WHOM WE ALL HAVE OUR HERITAGE FROM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    DON”T TELL ME THAT AMERICA IS NOT TO BE THE MELTING POT AND THE PEACE KEEPING NATION OF THE WORLD!!!!!! WHEN IT IS A LAND!!!!! OF ALL PEOPLES COLORS AND TONGUES!!!!! AND THAT INCLUDES JEWS< JAPANEESE< KOREAN< AFRICAN< YOPU NAME IT WE GOT IT AND MOST OF US ARE MIXED BETWEEN ONE AND TWO OR MORE OF THESE PEOPLES AND COLORS> THERE IS NO PURE WHITE ON THIS PLANET EARTH !!!!!!! GOD DID NOT CREATE A PURE WHITE RACE OF PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!! HITLER HAD IT ALL WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and BECAUSE OF IT HE LOST the WAR AGAINST ALL OTHER COLORS and TONGUES!!!!!!!!!!!!! TALK ABOUT BEING HOLIER THAN THOU HE WAS IT> and all because HE had NO KNOWLEDGE and NO UNDERSTANDING of THE HOLY SCRIPTURES and HERITAGE OF MANKIND!!!!!!!!! NOR HIS BEGINNING!! and IT was OUT FROM UNDER A ROCK LIKE SOME WORM THAT IS DOWN IN THE DEPTHS OF THIS EARTH> THAT IS SATANS domain!!!! WHERE The WORM never DIES> and THE HEAT IS SO HOT IT melts AWAY ANYTHING THAT FALLS INTO the DEPTHS OF THE EARTH.
    THOSE THAT HAVE believed DO believe and will believe SOAR LIKE THE EAGLES ON HIGH BECAUSE GOD HAS CREATED the HEAVENS and the EARTH > WE BETTER PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM AND hope IT comes soon FOR JERUSALEM IS NOT GOING TO SIT BACK AND LET ANYONE TAKE THAT CITY AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE THE JEW OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WAS A JEW AND IT IS HIS!!! FOREVER!!! LIKE IT OR NOT > HE is KING of kings and LORD of lords and HIS KINGDOM is forever. LIKE IT OR NOT. THE LORD GOD is NOT GOING TO ALLOW JERUSALEM TO FALL forever into the hands of any . BUT HIS!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE suffered ever since time began starting with OUR LORD JESUS the CHRIST WE CELEBRATE HIS RESURRECTION THIS MONTH!!! and WE THINK THAT THE OTHER PEOPLE WE INCLUDED OR IRAQ< OR EGYPT OR IRAN OR ALL EUROPE< OR ALL THE WEST NORTH AND SOUTH WILL OVERTAKE AND PUSH THE JEWISH NATION PEOPLE OF ISRAEL INTO THE SEA??? NO!!! IT HAS BEEN TRIED BEFORE MANY TIMES since the dawning of the AGE AFTER CHRIST CAME.so think again. IT IS GOD THAT IS the CREATOR OF ALL and IN ALL . and IT IS HE NOT US that DETERMINES ISRAELS DESTINY> and HE SAID TO PAHROAH THROUGH MOSES> LET MY PEOPLE GO!!!!! well THE PHAROAHS OF THIS WORLD HAVE AND KEEP REFUSING TO LEAVE HIS PEOPLE AND HIS KINGDOM AND HIS JERUSALEM IN PEACE> ALL OF US better WAKE UP and LISTEN TO what THE LORD GOD HATH SAID and done for us all !!!!!! INCLUDING HIS JERUSALEM PEOPLE!!!!!!!! FROM WHOM WE ALL HAVE OUR BEGINNING … TRACE THE SEED BACK … TO THE BEGINNING AND YOU WILL FIND ADAM AND EVE CAIN AND ABEL AND SETH!!!!!!!!THE ONE TO REPLACE THE SLAIN BROTHER ABEL! BY HIS BROTHER CAIN. FIRST BLOOD COVENANT GIVEN ONCE FOR US ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THINK ABOUT IT..

  12. Anonymous says:

    I could not mark any of the choices. Because I do not agree with any of the choices given.
    FIRST OF ALL YOU cannot TAKE THOSE THAT have CHILDREN THAT HAVE been BORN IN AMERICA and are CITIZENS because of this TRUTH> AND LAW OF OUR LAND. and DEPORT OR JAIL THEIR PARENTS. BUT YOU CAN TELL THEM THEY MUST NOW work to become a CITIZEN and GIVE Them a TIME ELEMENT TO FULFILL THAT REQUEST. IF they DO NOT TELL THEM THAT IF THEY FAIL TO do this then they shall HAVE TO RETURN TO MEXICO AND depending on the age of the CHILDREN THEY MAY HAVE TO GO without them IF THE CHILD IS OLD enough to CHOOSE TO GO WITH TO MEXICO OR STAY IN THE CARE AND LAND OF AMERICA> FOR ALL NOT OLD enough to make a choice would GO with their praents that are being DEPORTED FOR NON COMPLIANCE. TO THE LAW OF becoming a CITIZEN IF wanting to stay ON A PERMANT BASIS. all OTHER ILLEGALS THAT GET stopped at the border would be given the RIGHT TO STAY ONLY IF they HAVE A SPONSER BEFORE COMING ACROSS the BORDER. HAVING the UNDERSTANDING that they would HAVE TO PURSUE CITIZENSHIP within a period of time. AMERICA CANNOT DENY ANYONE THAT WANTS TO LIVE HERE TO COME AND BECOME A CITIZEN >> THAT IS WHAT AMERICA HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT> FREEDOM!!!!!! TO COME HERE AND LIVE FREE TO PURSUE PROSPERITY AND HAPPINESS BECAUSE THE MONEY AND JOBS WERE HERE< WE HAVE FORFEITED OUR JOBS< OUR PROSPERITY THAT GOD GAVE US BY SELLING OUR JOBS OVER TO OTHERS> CAUSING STRIFE AND JEALOUSY INSTEAD OF CREATING A PEACE FOR ALL PEOPLE TO COME TO LIVE AND PROSPER.IDEALLY PEACE ON THIS PLANET EARTH IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE STRIVING FOR!!!! BUT AS LONG AS THERE IS ONE PERSON THAT WANTS TO INIHILATE THE NATION OF ISRAEL!!!!! THERE WILL BE NO PEACE FOR ANY OF US >> THE BEST AMERICA AND AMERICANS CAN HOPE FOR IS KEEPING THE WAR AND BOMBS AWAY FROM OUR LAND AND SHORES> AND WORK FOR PEACE BETWEEN ISRAEL AND ALL THAT ARE AGAINST HER!!!!!!!!!!!!
    HASN”T ANYONE READ the BIBLE??? and STUDIED THE HISTORY OF “””””THE PEOPLE”””” THE CREATED MANKIND AND ALL HE HAS CREATED??? IT is so OBVIOUSLY TRUE!!!
    “My PEOPLE ARE DESTROYED BECAUSE OF LACK OF KNOWLEDGE.”
    KNOWLEDGE IS WISDOM. and WISDOM BEGINS WITH FEAR OF THE LORD THY GOD!
    PEOPLE HAVE NO RESECT FOR THEIR LORD THY GOD CREATOR OF ALL THINGS THAT ARE MADE THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.
    NO RESPECT AT ALL .. ALL SHOULD HAVE RESPECT FOR their FATHER .. and MOTHER, and maybe just maybe have a bit of fear of the FATHER!!!!!!!! who has said “VENGENCE IS MINE ” DO ANY REALLY WANT TO TAKE ON GOD OVER HIS PEOPLE THE JEWISH PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF ISREAL AND THOSE THAT STAND WITH HER…. WE OF THE LAND OF THE FREE and HOME OF THE BRAVE THAT KNOWS THEIR CREATOR AND THE ONE THAT BLESSED THEM WITH THIS LAND!!!! AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!
    MAY GOD NOT BRING HIS WRATH UPON US because of OUR KICKING HIM OUT… MAY HE BLESS US AGAIN as HE HAS IN the PAST!. WE BEST REMEMBER OUR HEAVENLY CREATOR FATHER GOD LORD AND SAVIOR…
    BEFORE WE HAVE HIS VENGENCE COME AGAINST US ALL!!!!!!! IF YOU THINK THIS STUPID RETORIC OF some JESUS FREAK CHRISTIAN , BELIEVER IN GOD ALMIGHTY >> THINK AGAIN. I KNOW WHO MY LORD AND GOD AND CREATOR IS. I AM WONDERING HOW MANY OTHERS KNOW who THEIR LORD IS.
    IF YOU DO KNOW YOU better be standing up and be counted for HIS TRUTH and HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS and HIS TRUTH and HIS WAY TRUTH AND LIGHT!!!!!!!!

  13. Anonymous says:

    I was noticing the Painting with the INDIAN and the statement REFERING TO the ONES THAT CAME across the seas to this land and ACTUALLY TOOK IT FROM THE INDIAN PEOPLE.
    BUT YET the INDIAN PEOPLE HAD TO HAVE COME FROM somewhere BEFORE WE AS IMMIGRANTS CAME TO THIS LAND RIGHT?? BEFORE THE LAND WAS SPLIT INTO THREE SECTIONS . THE LAND WAS ALL ONE MASS. AND ALL THE PEOPLE WERE IN ONE AREA> ALL CONNECTED BY THE LAND> NO BORDERS EXCEPT FOR THE WATER THAT ENCIRCLED THE LAND IN SCRIPTURE THERE WAS A TIME WHEN the LAND SPLIT APART and THIS IS why we have THREE DISTINCT LANDS.AS you go around the GLOBE. YOU HAVE EAST. MIDDLE and west.
    NOW PICK YOUR MIDDLE LAND you east land and your west land. CANNOT DO IT. FOR ALL want to be the MIDDLE AND be RULER OF THE ONES on the west and east RIGHT and the LEFT of MIDDLE.. BUT CHRIST JESUS was IN the MIDDLE OF the RIGHT and THE LEFT. so PICK who YOU want to stand with and which will be the MIDDLE of where JESUS CHRIST LIVED DIED SUFFERED AND ROSE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!! THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT STAND with ISRAEL HAVE ALWAYS STOOD WITH HER AND HER RIGHT TO LIVE AND SURVIVE. WHO CHOOSES TO TURN THEIR BACK ON THOSE AND ISRAEL TODAY?????????
    ALL THAT LOOK AT SADDAM and HIS IRAQ< before HIS FALL, and TODAY LOOK AT IRAN THAT HAS said THEY WANT ISRAEL TO BE PUSHED INTO THE SEA AT ANY COST > AND THEN TALK AGAINST OUR TRYING TO KEEP A HOLOCOST IN THE MIDDLE EAST THAT WOULD AFFECT US ALL .. FROM HAPPING> BY TRYING TO MAKE PEACE BETWEEN THESE PEOPLES> BY FREEING THEM FROM TYRANNY AND TYRRANTICAL RULERS YOU BETTER DO SOME SOUL SEARCHING AND FIND OUT SOME HISTORY OF THIS EARTH AND ITS BEGINNING.
    NOT TO mention THE TWINS JACOB. ESAU, and the BROTHERS ISHAMEL and ISAAC.ALL DESCENDANTS OF ABRAHEM a HEBREW!!!!!! WITH ISAAC and JACOB being the CHOSEN and THE LORD HATH SAID , “I HAVE HATED ESAU!!!!! but I HAVE LOVED JACOB!!! ESAU THE OLDER TWIN OF ISAAC, SOLD HIS BORTHRIGHT AND HE CAME OUT OF HIS MOTHERS WOMB. RED, and was a HUNTER OF THE FIELD. THE OLDER OF THE TWO NATIONS PEOPLES IN HER WOMB. THE OLDER TO BE A SLAVE TO THE YOUNGER. JACOB. GO BACK TO ISHAMEL and ISAAC ONE ISAAC BORN OF the FREE WOMAN SARAH THE PROMISED SON OF ABRAHM, and ISHMAEL THE ONE BORN OF THE EGYPTIAN HAGAR> AGAIN THE OLDER SON ISHAMEL BEING THE SLAVE TO THE YOUNGER ISAAC. GO BACK FURTHER. CAIN and ABEL. CAIN THE OLDER TENDER OF THE GROUND. and ABEL the KEEPER OF THE SHEEP. AGAIN CAIN the OLDER SLAYING the YOUNGER. BECAUSE OF JEALOUSY that came because of the FATHERS ADAMS DISOBEDIENCE TO HIS CREATOR GOD . THEY ALL FALL DOWN AND DIE> BECAUSE OF THAT FIRST SIN OF MAN ADAM. BUT PRAISES BE TO GOD HE MADE A WAY FOR US ALL THROUGH THE SHED BLOOD OF HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON> SHED BLOOD ONCE FOR ALL SACRIFICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    FATHER WORD, SON WORD, AND HOLY SPIRIT WORD. WITNESS THREE IN HEAVEN! and are all ONE!
    THREE WITNESS on earth , THE SPIRIT, the water and the blood. all THREE AGREE AS ONE.
    IT is all IN the BOOK. ONE can DENY IT AND DENY TRUTH GOD AND HIS WORD, OR BELIEVE, CONFESS, and RECIEVE . THE CHOICE is always AN INDIVIDUAL CHOICE TO MAKE. BUT ALL MUST MAKE IT sooner or later BECAUSE HE THE LORD GOD SHALL REQUIRE AN ACCOUNTING IN THE END. HE HAS had written also. ..

  14. Anonymous says:


       Suzanne,

       I would write you much, but I do not know if I will be able to at this time. You started off by saying, “I could not mark any of the choices. Because I do not agree with any of the choices given.” So I thought I would explain why I employ polls in many of these articles. I like to use polls as conversation starters but there is one thing that is often overlooked by many ~ polls are not absolute. No matter how precise a poll of the public opinion maybe, that public opinion can change almost overnight. The public opinion is like the wind, one minute it is at your back and the next it is right in your face. That is why I think they are good conversation starters but not too much more than that. Then again I could be wrong depending on tomorrow’s public opinion. I find it interesting especially when the poll turns out totally opposite to what I thought it would be. A good poll can get people to think about a given subject and start to talk about it.

  15. Anonymous says:

       Suzanne,

       It troubles me that you would think that I would think this, for you wrote, “IF YOU THINK THIS STUPID RETORIC OF some JESUS FREAK CHRISTIAN , BELIEVER IN GOD ALMIGHTY >> THINK AGAIN.” I do not think you are stupid or a freak! I love Jesus with all of my heart and soul, so I understand what you are saying. I agree about Israel however that is a whole other topic so for now I will address what is bothering me most about this topic of immigration.

       I post on many message boards and I have seen some extremely hateful posts about the Mexican immigrants. What I want to know is how can those who call themselves Christian or even look at the world from a humanitarian point of view talk about placing landmines on the border. It is bad enough that some are talking about a wall, but they go further to say that there should be armed guards on it with orders to shoot anything that moves. Forget for a moment the Democratic/Republican part of the issue and tell me how anyone can justify such hatred towards other human beings. It might sound a bit cliché but what would Jesus do? Hate is wrong even if we hate an evil person. Romans 12: 17 says, “Never pay back evil for evil to anyone” that does not mean that we have to let people walk on us. My opinion is that those who say to give the illegals amnesty are just as wrong as those who say to build a wall. The best thing is to improve the lives of all in both countries.

       At the end of the day we as individuals may not be able to change the immigration policy. There is one thing that we can control and that is our attitudes. As Christians we must pray for these people and realize our own limitations. One of the biggest mistakes that Christians made is thinking that they can do it all on their own. If we are not walking in the Spirit we will find ourselves dried up and helping no one. Sometimes praying is all that we can do and realize that God has to work on the lives of all people. I will conclude with this quote from an old song that we all use to sing, “God loves all the little children, red, yellow, black and white. They are all precious in God's sight!” Let us not forget that.

     

  16. Anonymous says:

    I'm sorry Marty I suppose I was really addressing anyone that would be reading what I post. THAT WOULD consider me just another JESUS FREAK. as we whom Belive by faith in the Gospel written of taught and spoken and testified to by we whom have believed by faith In what has been written for us all to LEARN OF HIM. and HOW ALL HAS been MADE and is made.
    Truth is Marty we all MUST DIE someday. Because this FLESH THAT WE SEE looking back at US in the MIRROR??? WILL not last forever. BUT THAT which is within DOES . LAST FOREVER.
    THAT is why WE AS CHRISTIAN BELIEVERS IN THAT GOSPEL THAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN OF AND TAUGHT TO MANKIND DOWN THROUGH ALL AGES AS LONG AS THERE IS ONE OF US THAT BELIEVE BY FAITH IN THAT WORD THAT CREATED IT ALL .. MUST CONTINUE TO BELIEVE CONFESS AND TESTIFY TO THIS TRUTH OF THIS GOSPEL .
    PASSING IT ON TO THOSE WHOM WILL STILL BE HERE WHEN WE ARE NO LONGER ON THIS EARTH AND ARE NO LONGER SEEN BY THOSE WE LOVE AND CARE ABOUT.
    SEASONS!!! GOD MADE THEM. AND TO EACH INDIVIDUAL WE ALL HAVE SEASONS BUT IT IS GOD ALMIGHTY THAT HAS CREATED THOSE SEASONS WE ALL MUST GO THROUGH.
    WE ARE AGAIN UPON ANOTHER SEASON OF GOD AND HIS OUTPOURING OF HIS HOLY SPIRIT UPON ALL FLESH. YET IT THIS TIME IS MORE THEN EVER HAS BEEN SEEN IN THIS WORLD .. MANY WILL DENY AND NOT RECIEVE. BUT YET IT WILL BE HARD TO DISBELIEVE THE TRUTH OF HIS BAPTISM THAT HAS BEEN BEING DONE EVER SINCE THAT FIRST OUTPOURING ON THAT LONG AGO DAY OF PENTECOST IN THE SCRIPTURES WE ALL HAVE HAD THE PRIVALIGE TO READ AND LEARN AND HEAR OF AND KNOW AND HAVE MANIFESTED IN OUR LIVES. even before this GREATEST OUTPOURING THISSEASON OF HIS GREATEST MANIFESTATION TO BE RECIEVED BY WHOSOEVER BELIEVE IN HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON WE HAVE AND DO CALL JESUS CHRIST .

  17. Anonymous says:

    I have seen some extremely hateful posts about the Mexican immigrants.

    Like most kids, a lot of the protesters are being seen as defiant. Insecure people react to that in hateful ways like putting them down for their youth or their heritage. I know if I had been caught in traffic because of their protest I would've been angry but I wouldn't have thought any hateful racist thoughts about them.

  18. Anonymous says:

    News note: Iran has the oil trump card!
    Is Iran so different? The conflicts and struggle for control in that area are about the oil, and has been since we (the US, et. al.) developed an addiction to it.
    One of the most populous countries in the world, China, is one of the lesser consumers – right now, but their appetite for oil is increasing. This raises the problem of even greater conflict as nations compete for the finite supply of this addictive liquid.
    What a great opportunity for China and other countries that are currently not so dependent on oil to develop other sources of fuel.
    Wind power and solar panels can be used to produce electrical power, which can be used in storage batteries to power our vehicles and many other types of equipment. Electricity is also used to produce hydrogen non-chemically by the process of electrolysis. I'm sure many of you remember the experiment in high school science classes demonstrating this. It was done for the purpose of demonstrating that water is two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen. Oxygen is necessary for most of our carbon based life forms, and hydrogen is the fuel that powers the sun.
    Internal combustion engines are already used, mostly in commercial applications that burn propane. Why can't these same engines burn hydrogen with little or no modification?
    Looking at this from a layman's point of view, I don't know much about the BTU output of hydrogen versus an equal amount of gasoline or any other fuel, and it may be less efficient.
    Generating hydrogen by the method of electrolysis process I described above may not be the most efficient way to generate hydrogen, but it is basically a one step process. When hydrogen is generated, there are no additional refining steps. It needs only to be dried, compressed and stored, and the hazards of hydrogen should be no more than a tank full of gasoline.
    We are told that the earth is 4/5ths covered with water, and sun and wind power are almost unlimited.
    This method of generating hydrogen is almost totally non-polluting. Oxygen and water are by products of the burning of hydrogen, and they would eventually become part of the cycle, being returned back to the supply of water.
    Doesn't developing this resource in countries that don't already have an infrastructure of petroleum dependence make sense?

  19. Anonymous says:

    I AGREE that OIL has a role to play here. for any and all .. BECAUSE OF THE MONEY involved.
    But you should not discount the real problem with the TERROIST that DONOT WANT PEACE WITH ISRAEL AT ANY COAST OR AT ANY PRICE OF ANY KIND GOOD BAD OR UGLY> THEY DO NOT WANT THE JEWS AT ALL!! TO HAVE LIFE PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!! TIS IS AN INBRED HANDED DOWN FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION FROM TIME IMMORTAL THIS HATRED BETWEEN THE MUSLIMS AND THE JEWS. AND CHRISTIANS. WHEN NONE SEE THE TRUTH THAT GOD IS THE GOD OF ALL!!!!!!!!! FORGET RELIGION > AND REMEMBER THE GOSPEL!!!!!!! OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN ONCE FOR ALL SACRIFICE !!!!! ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, ONE BAPTISM, ONE WAY TO THE FATHER IN HEAVEN. THAT IS THE FATHER OF US ALL LIKE IT OR NOT> RECIEVE HIS WORD AND TRUTH AND SON JESUS OR NOT IF HEARD AND SEEN TRUTH CANNOT BE DENIED!!!!!!!
    PEOPLE JUST DO NOT WANT TO SEE THE TRUTH.. THAT IS THE PROBLEM .. :):):):) THEY HAVE TO FACE THEMSELVES AND THAT IS NOT AT ALL A PRETTY SITE WHEN RECOGNIZED FOR OUR REALITY AND TRUTH OF WHO AND WHAT WE ALL ARE. IS IT?????

  20. Anonymous says:

       Mr Bush tries to defended the building of a fence on the border in this interview, but something goes wrong.

  21. Anonymous says:

    That’s the whole problem with this President, he is so busy looking at one thing while something else sneaks pass him.

  22. Anonymous says:

    That fence wasn't a border one, this looks like a setup video.
       

                                                                                                                                            Go Bush

  23. Anonymous says:

    How can you act so blind? It was right in front of you and you deny seeing it. A fence won’t work because it’s not the answer!

  24. Anonymous says:

    Blondie, who cares if the video was a setup? It shows how ridiculous the idea of building a fence is. My God woman, what type of free country has a wall around it?

  25. Anonymous says:

       There has always been political posturing but when it adversely affects America it smacks of nothing less than selfishness. The Republicans in Congress have been wasting time on pointless bills which are hollow with little chance of passing and no ability to change anything if they were to. Their talk about illegal immigration and building a fence on the border is just that ~ useless! Click here to see a short video of a Bush interview about the fence. (It is hilarious)

       As you could see from the clip a fence is not the answer any more than is the rhetoric about amnesty. To my knowledge no one is talking about giving amnesty to these illegal aliens. The solution to this problem is a two word answer, “The Employers.” We cannot deport some 12 million or more, but we can deport the illegal employers to jail. Once we take a hard line with the employers who knowingly hire illegals those jobs will dry up. Without those jobs the illegals will return home and they will not come back.

       It is the Republicans who are giving amnesty to these employers because they have only contempt for the working man. They cannot relate to those who work for a living and as such do not value their work. Today’s Republicans look for ways to outsource our jobs and when they cannot they bring in cheep workers. When it comes to the American workers the Republicans will always cut and run. They do not want to even increase the minimum wage to say nothing about a real living wage. Those who realize that a strong America means a strong middle class will win in the long run. Lets stop the rhetoric and work on some real solutions.

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