Deadly Seven

Written by Christianity and the Confusion on March 13th, 2008

   The Vatican has a new list of seven deadly sins which are polluting, genetic engineering, obscene riches, taking drugs, abortion, pedophilia and causing social injustice. After watching the news clip tell us if you agree.

 

http://www.smh.com.au/news/environment/vatican-updates-seven-deadly-sins/2008/03/10/1205125819939.html

 

 

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  1. Anonymous says:

    Do I agree? Sure, I agree that the pope is an idiot and added 7 more “deadly” sins. So what? Aside from making the sequel to the move “Seven” much more challenging, and adding another seven layers of hypocricy to the church, the proclomation is meaningless to any thinking human being.

  2. Anonymous says:

    We thought evil was defeated by our virtue but it turns out fire can't be fought with fire. So the fire blazes still higher.
    Shalom

  3. Anonymous says:

    Well both posts show up as ANOMYNOUS .. while I post this post YET ONE SAYS it was written By someone called anomynous and then the one above reads Bauch now changed to anonymous, AND BOTH HAVE ME AS the POSTER.. NOT GOOD .. BECAUSE I NEVER wrote the last two postings the Two after the So called Video that doe not work. here been removed yet it was transfered from YOU TUBE. I never did that either . Seems there can be TROLLS ANYWHERE> JUST MAYBE. TROLLS ARE people that use anothers Idenity THINKING IT IS OK FUNNY AND AND GREAT JOKES .. NOT!!!!!!!!!!! never was and never has been nice to take advantage of people when they are not aware of what the joke was supposed to be about in the first place. sometims Jokes can backfire bigtime on those whom thought it was funny or done in the interest of another person. BAD TRICKS ARE JUST THAT, BAD.. NEVER GOOD.. NOW AS for the POPES NEW SINS..
    Polution. Or as it has been written poluting… poluting what? the atmosphere. the AIR that we breathe.. SCIENTISTS have invented all kinds of things to polute the atmosphere and now that we have not much land left to lolute we as men now begin cluttering up the heavens with all sorts of junk and trash and broken parts from space stuff such as Satilites that sooner or later must give out and get old and begin to fall out of the heavens . HUH? oh lets nott just blame man for doing this after all WE DO HAVE female scientists also yet to become a scientists.. have to have a BRAIN THAT CAN become QUITE KNOWLEDGABLE AND knowing about many things including SCIENTIFIC STUFF.. without SCIENTIFIC STUFF COULD NOT HAVE ANY SCIENTISTS MALES or females men or woman .. SO much for who is to blame for POLUTING THE EARTH. and the HEAVENS..
    Social INJUSTICE??? SOCIETY is and are people. and whom get no JUSTICE> NOW DAYS the INNOCENT GET NO REAL JUSTICE .. why? because today good is called evil and evil is called good Bribes are offered and taken and accepted GIVEN BY men and woman to many other men and woman and also those Bribes and deals are recieved by some innocent people that agree to guiklt when they are not guilty OF DOING something they could be made guilty of BECAUSE OF THE evidence that is not always nothing but less then a truth.. NEXT QUESTION PLEASE??? what is TRUTH? anything that is not a lie.. making it true that one can either tell a true thing or tell a lie. about anyone or anything. in ther words baring false witness .. witness to what? depend s on what you are called to witrness of.. and to… I believe..
    all the rest inbetween I have only takemn a drug that has been prescribed by a DRS. I have never been guilty of MURDERING MY CHILD THAT WAS within the womb being called a female woman, I have not been guilty of CLONING ANOTHER IMAGE OF MYSELF TO THE EXACT COLOR HAIR AND MIRROR IMAGE OF WHAT OTHERs SEE LOOKING AT ME. and do not agree in CLONING ANYTHING OR ANYONE. GENETIC ENGINEERING … I HAVE never that I am aware of ever molested , raped a CHILD. as for RICHES . being rich is not OBSCENE FOR having alot of MONEY CAN be VERY BENIFICIAL to another person that is not having much. YET I DO believe HAVING LOVE OF RICHES SUCH AS MONEY IS NOT A GOOD THING . yet MANY CAN HAVE RICHES without haveing LOVE FOR MONEY and some can have riches without having been RICH IN MONEY . I BELIEVE I HAVE RICHES beyond having LOVE FOR MONEY I DO NOT CARE TO be RICH IN MONEY . I WOULD RAHER JUST HAVE what is NEEDED and GIVE what is NEEDED. TO ANOTHER. when ASKED. AS FOR SINS.. well all HAVE SINNED there is none perfect in this world of FLESHLY men and woman CALLED MANKIND because IT WAS MAN NOT woman that was told BY GOD do not the WOMAN WAS TOLD YU SHALL suffer in CHILDBIRTH and so we do. that GIVE BIRTH TO A BABY. whether boy or girl yet the memory of the pain does disapeear when LOVE for what we hold is present.REASON ABORETION IS A SAD and bad thing . MURDER OF the MOST INNOCENT OF ANY MANKIND.

  4. Anonymous says:

       There are those who have tried to use the issue of abortions as a hot button issue to stir people up politically. These are disingenuous politicians for they held the majority for years and never tried to change the law. They would prefer to use inflammatory language like “killing babies” instead of really doing something to curtail the unwanted teenage pregnancies. Some do not realize that the Bible actually makes it clear that a fetus is not a baby and an abortion is not murder (that is not to condone the practice, only to say that it is not murder.) This passage states that if someone should cause a miscarriage which is the very definition of an abortion (the premature expulsion of the fetus before it can survive) they shall pay a fine, but if further harm should occur then the punishment shall be an eye for an eye. If that fetus had been a living baby that abortion would have had the penalty of death.

    If men contend with each other, and a pregnant woman [interfering] is hurt so that she has a miscarriage, yet no further damage follows, [the one who hurt her] shall surely be punished with a fine [paid] to the woman's husband, as much as the judges determine.
    But if any damage follows, then you shall give life for life,
    Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
    Burn for burn, wound for wound, and lash for lash. [1]

       Throughout history there has been a whole multitude of ways that a miscarriage would be induced to perform an abortion.

    Many of the methods employed in early and primitive cultures were non-surgical. Physical activities like strenuous labour, climbing, paddling, weightlifting, or diving were a common technique. Others included the use of irritant leaves, fasting, bloodletting, pouring hot water onto the abdomen, and lying on a heated coconut shell [2]

       Most people think that abortions are something new to this century, but throughout history there have been abortions. The first recorded evidence of inducing a miscarriage to abort the pregnancy is from the Egyptian Ebers Papyrus in 1550 BC. [3] In the Hebrew culture there were no rights for the unborn, they held the belief that upon the birth when the first breath was drawn that a living spirit was breathed into the child by God. Before the birth only the parents had rights and sadly that meant the husband for the most part.
       Some try to use paraphrased versions to overcome this passage by substituting the word premature for miscarriage. This is a bit deceitful as it rewrites the word of God and only leaves half of the truth. The original language meant miscarriage which is the premature expulsion of the fetus before it can survive. By using the word premature it leaves the impression that it was only a premature birth, but that was not the case. One more thing should be kept in mind; seeing that abortions were common for that day if it was murder in the eyes of God why is there not passage in the Bible condemning the practice? There are those who try to make the distinction between the terms of abortion and miscarriage in order to avoid what the Bible says. These people have locked themselves into the dogma of calling a fetus a baby and an abortion murder to the point that they cannot see the solution. Whereas many maybe pro-life or pro-choice, no one is pro-abortion, that is to say that it is the last thing that anyone wants. In that is found the solution, but both sides need to work together to end the need for abortions. The answer goes far beyond simply telling our kids to say no, and there is no such thing as one solution that fits all. With a strong economy there can be more parental guidance which will cut down on the unwanted teenage pregnancies. By enforcing laws which stop older men from preying on young girls many of those unwanted teenage pregnancies can be prevented. With a strong economy signal women choose to have the baby because they feel that they can afford it and there are more jobs with healthcare. The list goes on but no one is thinking that there will be no unwanted pregnancies, only that they can be reduced so that as President Clinton said, “Abortion should be safe, legal and rare.”
    [1] http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=2&chapter=21&version=45
    [2] Devereux, G. (1967). A typological study of abortion in 350 primitive, ancient, and pre-industrial societies Retrieved April 22, 2006. In Abortion in America: medical, psychiatric, legal, anthropological, and religious considerations. Boston: Beacon Press. Retrieved April 22, 2006
    [3] Potts, Malcolm, & Campbell, Martha. (2002). History of contraception. Gynecology and Obstetrics, vol. 6, ch. 8.

  5. Anonymous says:
    Great post Marty, I've just have one question. If the Bible doesn't say that there is anything wrong with getting an abortion how can it be wrong?
  6. Anonymous says:

    Some do not realize that the Bible actually makes it clear that a fetus is not a baby and an abortion is not murder (that is not to condone the practice, only to say that it is not murder.) This passage states that if someone should cause a miscarriage which is the very definition of an abortion (the premature expulsion of the fetus before it can survive) they shall pay a fine, but if further harm should occur then the punishment shall be an eye for an eye. If that fetus had been a living baby that abortion would have had the penalty of death.
    So GOD OUR LORD CREATOR never ever had it written in Jeremiah (I KNEW YOU before you were in your mothers womb.) AGAIN denying that Bbay Boys and Baby Girls that are also In the image of the parents that have also HAD sexual relations to conceive and have ANOTHER LIFE begun within a Womans uterous WILL BY all INTENTS and PURPOSES will never be a BABY BOY or GIRL OR A FEMALE or MALE OR NO person called MANKIND BY the same CREATOR OF the FIRST MAN and FIRST woman HE not YOU BUT HE CALLED MANKIND.
    SO if this is so that GOD never had it written (LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE) and GOD NEVER HAD IT WRITTEN I KNEW YOU IN JEREMIAH. THEN I GUESS we can throw out the truth that we as mankind are not called mankind because THE LORD AHS NOT HAD IT WRITTEN SAID OR HAS NOT done anything at all MAN HAS CREATED the HEAVENS the EARTH and ALSO HAS CREATED HIMSELF FROM NOTHING AT ALL .. OK HAVE IT YOUR WAY. I would rather believe in the HOLY BIBLE SCRIPTURES as THE LORD HATH HAD them WRITTEN INCLUDING the GOSPELS OF JOHN MATTHEW MARK AND LUKE OF the NEW BOOKS ALSO JUST A PART OF what we have TODAY OF what THUS THE LORD AND SAVIOR HAS said done and had written about all OF THOSE HE HAS ALREADY NAMED MANKIND> THANKS BE TO the LORD THAT NOT ALL DENY HIS REALITY AND TRUTH …
    as FOR PROVING DEATH OF THE IN UTEROUS IN THE WOMB FETUS BEING THE INNOCENT .. ALL CHILDREN WHETHER IN OR OUT OF THE WOMB OUR LORD HAS BLESSED AND SAID THE BLOOD ON THE HEMS OF THEIR SKIRTS SHALL BE EVIDENCE OF THEIR WRONG SINFULNESS .. SHEDDING OF INNOCENT BLOOD . YOU also then must believe that BABIES FETUSES HAVE NO HEART NO BLOOD AND NO LIFE TO GROW and MATURE INTO ANOTHER CHILD OF OUR LORD THY GOD to have life that YOU OR ANY mother called a woman by GOD and a man CALLED the DAD parents FOR AND OF THE CHILD THAT GOD KNEW before THAT CHILD was even in the womb of ITS MOTHER. as it has already been written said and done by the CREATOR OF ALL men and woman BEGINNING WITH A MAN CALLED ADAM and a WOMAN THAT MAN ADAM NAMED EVE> GOD never named the woman GOD named her femal and woman ADAM the MAN NAMED HER EVE why???? BECAUSE IT is she THAT is the MOTHER OF ALL LIVNG!!!!!!!!!! beginning with CAIN and ABEL and SETH . FROM THIS FAMILY OF HUSBAND WIFE and CHILDREN ALL DESCENDANTS HAVE BEEN INCLUDING NOAH ABRAHAM ISAAC AND JACOB MANNASSAH AND EPHRAIM. GRANDSONS OF ISRAEL CHILDREN OF JOSEPH ISRAELS SON. ARE YOU CONFUSED YET READ the GOSPEL and THE WORD OF the LORD AND SAVIOR OF MANKIND HE HAS CREATED along with the HEAVENS and the EARTH. FATHER SON AND HOLY SPIRIT. EPHESIANS LETS US KNOW there is ONE LORD ONE FAITH and ONE BAPTISM and the LORD AND SAVIOR LET US KNOW there is only one way BACK TO THAT FROM WHERE WE AVE COME FROM. THROUGH OUR FAITH IN THE ONE HE HAS SENT AND WE KNOW AS CHRIST JESUS LIVED WAS CRUCIFIED DIED WAS BURIED AND IS RISEN REASON WE CELEBRATE ON THE RESURRECTION DAY THIS YEAR MARCH 23rd. BECAUSE AS CHRISTians we have believed do believe and will continue to believe in the Gospel and not be ashamed of HIM HIS NAME OR the GOSPEL..
    APPARENTLY many are ashamed of the CHRIST JESUS THE HOLY BIBLE AND THAT NAME ALL CHRISTIANS NAME CHRIST JESUS .. sad I SAY. and I am positive GOD IS MUCH SADDER over it then any OF us could EXPLAIN UNLESS as I have done many times CRIED over the DENIAL of others UNBELIEF IN A MAN CALLED JESUS and a BOOK OF BOOKS 62 to be exact THE INSPIRED INHERENT WORD OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR .. THIS also OUR ORD hath had it written.. (MY PEOPLE PERISH FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE) not to mention UNDERSTANDING that the FEAR of the LORD IS the BEGINNING OF WISDOM.
    OUR HEAVENLY FATHER is called FATHER MALE HE NOT FEMALE WIFE MOTHER OR SHE. NO wisdom is FEMALE and WRITTEN and CALLED SHE. and HER NOT HE or HIM.
    IS it any wonder that THE LORD HAS MADE THOSE DISTINCTIONS as to THE FATHER THAT IS IN HEAVEN HE CREATED and HER FEMALE WIFE WOMAN HE ALSO CREATEDAND YET CALLS WISDOM SHE> AND HIMSELF OS HE THE CREATOR FATHER OF BOTH HUSBAND AND WIFE. MALE and FEMALE MAN and woman ONE FOR ONE. YET something went wrong??? OR a WRONG CHOICE was made >> BY whom? GOD never told the woman NOT TO EAT OF THE FRUIT OF THAT TREE OF KNOWLEDGE> no IT WAS she that was decieved . NO THE FATHER OF them BOTH TOLD HE the MALE the MAN TO NOT EAT OF THE TREE OF GOOD AND EVIL GUESS what CHOICE HE MADE disobeyed GOD BLAMD HER FOR BEING DECIEVED BY A SERPENT A BEAST OF GODS CREATION. MUST HAVE HAD LEGS because GOD GAVE HIM A CURSE TOOK HIS LEGS AWAY THAT HE WOULD CRAWL ON THE GROUND EATING DUST for all HIS DAYS. CANNOT GET ANY LOWER then CRAWLING AROUND IN the DUST and DITRT OF the EARTH ALL THE DAYS OF ONES LIFE. EVEN THE smallest ant has legs. EVEN a CENTIPEDE has LEGS. BUT SNAKES WORMS HAVE NONE CATERPILLAR'S EVEN HAVE LEGS TINY BUT THEY HAVE THEM . THE MANS CURSE DEATH JUST AS GOD SAID DOES GOD LIE NO MAN DIES> HE ALSO CURSED THE WOMAN PAIN IN CHILDBIRTH . DID GOD LIE? NO I AM A WOMAN AND I HAVE GIVEN BIRTH AND YES IT HURTS. IS there any man out there that would like to TRADE PLACES AFTER watching a BIRYHING OF A BABY BOY OR GIRL TRY PASSING A KIDNEY STONE the SIZE OF a SMALL ROCK THROUGH YOUR THE PENIS and see how much pain you have. KINDA LIKE HAVING A WATERMELLON TO PASS THROUGH A FOUR INCH SPACE when the BABY IS TWICE AS BIG. NOT to mention the LABOR BEFORE.
    NO GOD has not LIED MAN DIES WOMAN SUFFER while GIVING BIRTH IF there was not now PAIN KILLERS and SUCH THINGS TO ALEVIATE THE PAIN MEDICINAL!! also a SYMBOL IN SCRIPTURE FOR the MEDICIAL PHYSICIANS HOSPITALS AND MEDICINE.and some MEDICINE BOTTLES and LIQUIDS people use have a SKULL on the bottle to serve as a warning not all is good to ingest by mouth. poison is real . JUST AS the symbol was and is . OK BACK TO what is a FETUS?? is it a BEGINNING LIVING BOY OR GIRL MALE OR FEMALE CALLED ANOTHER MAN OR WOMAN OR will it and is it going to somehow when FULLY GROWN MATURED going to be born into this world OF HEAVENS and THE EARTH AS A ANIMAL SUCH AS CAT DOG COW PIG ANTELOPE MAYBE A GORILLA OR MAYBE A PORPOISE HOW ABOUT A WHALE OR CATFISH OR MAYBE A BUGGIE OR PARROT HOW ABOUT A SPIDER OR ANOTHER something THAT HAS been KNOWN TO MANKIND CALLED PEOPLE??? CREATION OF OUR LORD THAT HAVE NEED OF A REDEEMER CALLED CHRIST JESUS ??? JUST SOME TRUTH FOR all that apparently have no truth about what a FETUS IS. IT IS A LIVING BEING just like YOU OR me BEING A MAN OR A WOMAN IF left ALONE TO MATURE AND GROW BECAUSE OF A THING CALLED BLOOD AND A HEART THAT BEATS within TO CIRCULATE THE BLOOD NO BLOOD NO HEART NO LIFE NO GROWTH AND NO CHILD CALLED ANOTHER PERSON> THE HEART IDS THE FIRST THING TO FORM OF THE ORAGNS OF THE BODY OF A FETUS.. OF TWO MONTHS.. ANYIONE UNDERSTAND HOWSMALL A TWO MONTH OLD FETUS IS IT ALREADY HAS A HEART > JUST PRETTY FAINT TO HEAR. YET IT IS THE PUMP THAT IS NEEDED . JUST AS THE BLOOD TO BE NOURISHMENT TO MATURE AND GROW INTO ANOTHER PERSON CALLED MANKIND NOT AN ANIMAL FISH OR BIRD OR WORM SBAKE WHAT IS GODS SHOULD BE LEFT ALONE UNTIL GOD SAYS IT IS OVER> LIFE AND DEATH SHOULD BE UP TO HIM YET SUFFERING DIEING AND LIFE ARE A REALITY FOR US ALL > SO IS REDEMTION FORGIVENESS AND CHRIST JESUS A REALITY FOR MANY IF NOT ALL … GOD IS the FATHER OF ABRHAM THE FATHER OF MMANY NOT ALL BUT MANY NATIONS> NATONS ARE peoples. HE is the GOD OF ABRAHAM ISAAC and JACOB. whom and what is missing THE UNBELIVERS THE DENIERS OF the ONLY BEGOTTEN RESURRECTED SON OF GOD ALL CHRISTIANS CALL JESUS THE CHRIST SON OF THE LIVING GOD HEAVENLY FAHER. HE EITHER CREATED IT ALL OR we deny it all and throw out the HOLY BIBLE ND TRADE HIS BOOKS FOR what other one shall we trade the HOLY BIBLE IN AND GET what other BOOK SHALL WE TAKE IN PLACE OF IT> YOU WANT ANOTHER BOOK TO REPLACE the GOSPEL HOLY BIBLE CHOOSE

  7. Anonymous says:

        I should have responded sooner for this is for the battle between those who call themselves pro-life and pro-choice is a dead end road with no winners. The argument that abortion is murder is not Biblical and only closes the door to discussion. Keep in mind that likes the idea that there is a need for abortions and there in is the solution. We must find ways to prevent these unwanted, unplanned pregnancies. If anyone really believes that abortion is murder they should then do anything, support anything that would prevent the need to choose whether to abort or not. If the pregnancy is prevented then so will be the abortion.

  8. Anonymous says:

    Ok Infidelity HAVING SEX with anyone other then ones HUSBAND IS still CALLED ADULTRY. HAVING SEX without THE VOWS OF MARRIAGE BEFORE GOD . is still having sex without the MARRIAGE BED> I believe that GOD CREATED ONE MAN and ONE WOMAN TO be JOINED TOGETHER IN THE MARRIAGE BED MAKING THESE two A MALE and A FEMALE being MARRIED HAVING VOWED BEFORE GOD for all MANKIND MALES and FEMALES MARRIAGE!! THE SEXUAL RELATION between a man and a woman HAS been ALSO CREATED for a REASON and a PURPOSE JUST AS with all THINGS THAT GOD HAS HAD writtebn and said and done for HIS CREATED beings. WE could sit here all night long and for many days going back and forth about what THUS THE LORD AND SAVIOR OF ALL HIS CREATED BEING HAS HAD written SAID and done FOR US > AS CHRISTIAN believers BY FAITH IN HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON we REALLY DO CALL CHRIST JESUS the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF THE LIVING GOD FATHER IN HEAVEN THAT ALSO DID CREATE the HEAVENS and THE EARTH ANIMALS PLANTS BIRDS FISH AND MAN AND WOMAN WE CALL ADAM AND EVE> THAT GOD GAVE THE MAN A CHOICE AND TRUTH IS MAN MADE THE WRONG CHOICE BEING DISOBEDIENT TO THE HEAVENLY FATHER THAT CREATED HIM BEFORE HE EVEN GAVE HIM THE WOMAN TO BE HIS WIFE!AND HELPER WRITTEN AS A HELPMATE MAN SEEMS TO believe that SUBMISSION TO THE HUSBAND means she has NO VOICE NO DECISIONS NO MIND AT ALL JUST A SOMETHING THAT GOD GAVE TO HAVE AS A PIECE OF PROPERTY JUST AS AN ANIMAL SUCH AS THE ANIMALS AND PLANTS HE GAVE TO ALSO TAKE CARE OF AND FEED AND BE THANKFUL TO THE LORD HEAVENLY FATHER THAT CREATED HIM. IT IS SUMMED UP IN THE NEW TESTAMENT LOVE EACH OTHER AS I HAVE LOVED YOU. HOW MUCH HAS OUR LORD AND SAVIOR LOVED THE MAN AND WOAN HE HAD AND HAS AND WILL CONTINUE TO CREATE??? CONTINUE TO LOVE???HAVING GIVEN HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN NSON WE NOW KNOW AS A CHRIST JESUS THAT WAS GIVEN AND WAS RISEN FROM THE DEATH HE HAS ALREADY SUFFERED FOR WHOM????????? ALL BECAUSE IN JOHN 3;16:GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD! GOD SO LOVED THE WHAT ??? THE WORLD??? THAT ALL OF US ARE TO HATE ACCORDING TO WHOM?????? OH YES ABRAHAM IS THE FATHER OF MANY PEOPLES NATIONS NOT ALL GOD SAID MANY NOT ALL NATIONS HE DID SAY YOU WILL BE THE FATHER OF MANY NATIONS. AND WITHOUT THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD THERE NEVER WOULD BE ANY COVENANT BETWEEN MAN THAT HAD SIONNED DISOBEYED HIS CREATOR BECAUSE BLOOD IS THE FINAL COVENANT BETWEEN GOD AND MAN…… THE FIRST COVENANT WAS between GOD AND NAOAH> THE RAINBOW AFTER THE RAIN> EVER SEEN ONE OF THOSE MARTY ? I HAVE. MANY TIMES AND EVERYTIME I THINK OF HOW GOD GAVE NOAH THE SAME NOAH THAT WAS TOLD TO BUILD THE ARK.. MADE A V COVENANT WITH HIM A MAN NAMED NOAH NO MORE FLOODING OF THE EARTH TO DESTROY ALL LIFE ALL MANKIND ALL THAT WAS NOT WITHIN THE ARK WITH NOAH> THEN CAME HAM THAT SINNED AGAINT HIS FATHER NOAH BY UNCOVERING HIM LOOKED UPON HIS FATHERS NAKEDNESS> WHY would a SON OF NOAH GO INTO HIS FATHER AND UNCOVER HIM THEN COME OUT AND TELL HIS BROTHERS ?? WHAT HE HAD DONE?? THEN TGHOSE TWO BACKED INTO THEIR FATHER SO THEY WOULD NOT LOOK UPON THE NAKEDNESS THAT HAM HAD COMITTED. GOD NEVER CURSED OR JUGEMENT WAS NOT GIVEN TO HAM NO THE CURSE FELL UPON THE GRANDSON HAMS SON…. THIRD GENERATION.. NOAH HAD A FATHER MOTHER AND GRANDPARENTS.. YET SIN WAS BEFORE NOAH COMMITTED BY CAIN AGAINST ABEL HIS BROTHER CAUSING GOD TO CURSE THE FATHER ADAM YET HE HAD ALREADY TOLD THE FATHER YOU SHALL TOIL WITH THE SWEAT OF YOUR BROW UNTIL THE DAY YOU DIE> ADAM FIRST MAN RECIEVED A DEATH PENALTY FOR HIS SIN < THE DECIEVER RECIEVED A SENTANCE FOR HIS DECEPTION OF THE WOMAN GOD HAD MADE FOR ADAM THE MAN. AND FOR THE WOMAN SHE RECIEVED A CURSE ALSO PAININ CHILDBIRTH > AND CAIN AFTER HE BECAME JEALOUS AND MURDERED HIS BROTHER?? BANNED WITH A MARK PUT UPON HIM> ANYONE FINDING HIM WOULD NOT KILL HIM. MOVE FORWATRD AFTER GOD SHED BLOOD OF ADAM ?? OR ANIMAL?? TO GIVE CLOTHING WITH SKIN? OF THE ANIMAL?? OR IS THIS WHY WE HAVE AN OUTER SKINCOVERING BECAUSE GOD AFTER ALL MADE MAN IN HIS IMAGE>> AND HAVE YOU NOT HEARD BEEN TOLD OR READ THAT GOD OUR LORD FATHER HEAVENLY FATHER CREATOR OF ALL HEAVEN S AND EARTH AND MAN AND WOMAN ANIMALS PLANTS IS SPIRIT?? FIRST GENERATION MAN SECOND CAIN THIRD SON SETH, TO REPLACE THE SLAIN ABEL BY HIS JELOUS BROTHER CAIN … GO FORWARD TO NOAH AND HIS FAMILY SETH IS BEFOR NOAH CAIN HAD A MARK ON HIM SO NONE WOULD KILL HIM… YET A WANDERER FOREVER CAIN WAS ….A NOMADE WANDERER NO HOME ANYMORENO LAND BANNISHED WAS ADAM BANNISHED OUT OF EDAN?? SURE.. WITH NO MARK ACCEPT DEATH WOULD COME UPON HIM FIRST MAN SENTANCED TO DEATH HIS WIFE SENTANCED TO PAIN IN CHILD BIRTH> AND SETH A REPLACEMENT FOR THE SON YOUNGER SON ABEL!!!!!!NOW HAM SINNED NOAHS SON YET GOD GAVE THE CURSE TO HAMS SON.. CANAAN CANAAN IS THE LAND THAT LATER WAS PROMISED AND H GIVEN TO THE ISRAELITES THAT WHOM BROUGHT OUT OF EGYPT?? WHOM WAS SENT TO BRING THE PEOPLE OF GOD OUT OF EGYPT MARTY? WE HAVE BEEN TOLD ABRAHAM. YET IN EXODUS. WAS IT NOT MOSES AND AARON THAT WAS SENT?? ABRAM WAS AFTER MOSES AND AARON. AND LOT THAT LIVED IN SODOMKNOWN AS SODOM AND GOMORAH THAT CITY THAT GOD SENT ANGELS TO DESTROY.. BY FIRE!!! BECAUSE OF THEIR SIN WHAT WAS SODOMS SIN?? SODOMY IS NOT SODOMY THE SEX BETWEEN TWO MEN OR TWO WOMAN YET WOMAN WERE NOT MENTIONED JUST THE MEN CAME TO LOTS DOOR ASKING FOR THE VISITERS TO HAVE THEM OR HAS THIS ALL ESCAPED YOUR THOUGHTS BECAUSE AFTER ALL HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A SIN APPARENTLY ANYMORE TODAY HUH?? SODOMITES ARE MALE HOMOSEXUALS… DO I HAVE TO GET EXPLICIT SO YOU KNOW WHY THEIR USED TO BE A LAW AGAINST SODOMY. YET MANKIND LAWYERS HAVE TAKEN AND CHANGED THE LAW OF SODOMY THERE IS NO LAW AGAINST SODOMY ANYMORE S WHAT DO WE HAVE NOWTODAY SODOMITES OF THE OLD TESTAMENT SCRIPTURES> OF OUR LORD ????? THANK GOD MARTY!!! THANK GOD FOR A CHRIST JESUS THAT HAS DIED FOR OUR SINS!!!!!!! SHEDDING BLOOD NOT OF GOATS NOT OF ANY ANIMAL NO THE BLOOD COVENANT OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD OUR LORD AND SAVIOR CREATOR OF THE FIRST MAN AND FIRST WOMAN THAT I WAS TOLD HAVE READ THAT GOD SENT MOSES AND AARON OH AND MIRIAM AARONS WIFE SHE GOT LEPROSY REMEMBER IN THE SCRIPTURE I HAVE READ SHE WAS HEALEDOF HER LEPROSY. THERE ARE LEPER COLONIES TO THIS DAY I KNOW OF ONE IN I BELIEVE IS DOWN SOUTH SOMEWHERE LUISIANIA MAYBE I FORGET WHAT STATE.. OR maybe it was in or is in NEW ORLEANS.. I COULD go ON AND ON but you really do not need me to GO ON AD ON do you why MURDERING UNBORN BABY GIRLS and BABY BOYS is wrong do you . JUST IN CASE.. there is such a thing as a growing matireing baby inside a uterous that for unknown reasons sometimes dies and NATURAL ABORTING TAKES PLACE. ABRAHAM IS THE FATHER OF MANY NATIONS. NOT ALL MANY>> REBECCAH HAD TWO NATIONS IN HER WOMB!!! I DID NOT TELL REBECCAH ISAACS WIFE ABRHAMS PROMISED SON BY SARAH HIS WIFE. GOD TOLD HER TWO NATIONS IN YOUR WOMB!THE YOUNGER SON SHALL BE RULER over THE ELDER SON. GO BACK TO CAIN AND ABEL CAIN SLEW the YOUNGER SON HE being the OLDER SON. ONLY BECAUSE DADDY ADAM DISOBEYED HIS CREATOR HEAVENLY FATHER CREATOR OF EVEN THE WIFE HE GAVE HIM TO LOVE PROTECT AND TAKE CARE OF ALONG WITH THE GARDEN HE HAD MADE JUST FOR THESE TWO MALE AND FEMALE HE CALLED WHAT??? MAN WOMAN MAN IN HIS IMAGE> AND WOMAN HE FASHIONED WITH HIS OWN HANDS FROM ADAMS SIDE RIB!!! FOR HIM TO HAVE AS A NOT SOMEONE WITHOUT A MIND OR VOICE BUT TO BE A HELPER HELPMATE NOT JUST A NONE NOTHINGNESS> GO FORWATRD TO THE TWO IN ISAACS WIFES WOMB WHOM WAS THE OLDER AND WHO WAS THE YOUNGER SHE MARKED THE FIRST TWIN. WITH A RED STRING. YET GOD HAD ALREADY SAID THE YOUNGER WOULD RULE GOD ALREADY ORDAINED THE YOUNGER NOT THE OLDER> ESAU OLDER. JACOB. YOUNGER. ESAU RED AND HAIRY, TENT DWELLERS. WANDERERS, HUNTERS, JACOB WAS FAIR KEEPER OF WHAT? OH YES THE SHEEP… JACOB HAD MADE A POT OF BEANS LENTLES NOT MEAT STEW LIKE WHAT ESAU BROUGHT IN AFTER A HUNT. ISAAC LOVED ESAU AND ESAUS HUNTED MEAT STEW. YET REBECCAHLOVED JACOB A GENTLE R AND ALSO ORDAINED TO BE AS GOD HAD SAID RULER.. AS HE BEING THE YOUNGER. JACOB WAS RENAMED JUST AS ABRAM HAD BEEN RENAMED AND SARI HIS WIFE WAS RENAMEDALL RENAMED BY GOD , I NEVER WROTE ALL THIS GOD HAS HAD IT ALL WRITTEN BY A MAN WE ARE TOLD MOSES..
    MARTY/ I HAVE A QUESTION. FOR YOU. NAMES THREE NAMES NO FOUR.. MARY, JOSEPH, JESUS, AND MOSES, WHAT ONES OF THESE NAMES CAN ANY MAN OR WOMAN DENY AS BEING WITHIN THE BOOK OF BOOKS CALLED THE HOLY BIBLE & the FOUR GOSPEL BOOKS? OF CHRIST JESUS OF THE BOOK OF ISAIAH, GENESIS, MATTHEW MARK LUKE AND JOHN. CAN WE forget and DENY paul peter Simon can we deny other woman of the Bible Ruth NAOMIE ESTHER TWO of the Four above are GREAT GRANDFATGHERS OF MINE. YET MOSES MY GREAT GRANDFATHER is not the RECORDER OF GENESIS, YET the name was known or there would not be a man or men named MOSES OR JOSEPH and there would not be any woman called mary the name of THE VIRGIN MOTHER OF A SON OF OUR LOD HEAENLY FATHER THAT DIED THAT GODS people GODS LOVED CREATION HIS MAN AND WOMAN MALE AND FEMALE TO MULTIPLY THE EARTH HE HAD CREATED AND JOHN THE REVELATOR ALSO A NAME JOHN BEING THE BROTHER CHRIST JESUS LOVED THE MOST, AND WAS WITNESS TO IT ALL> ALONG WITH MATTHEW MARK LUKE PAUL WAS AFTER THE CROSS OUTSIDE JERUSALEM IN THAT STATE AND CITY IN ISRAEL > THE GRANDFATHER OF JOSEPHS TWO SONS EPHRAIM AND MANASSAH. MARTY THAT WITHIN IS GREATER THEN ANY OF US. NOW FAITH… I PERSONALLY HAVE NEVER DOUBTED THAT THERE IS A CREATOR OF ALL EVEN THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH. CAN YOU UNDERSTAND WHY I HAVE NO EXCUSE DO ANY OF US REALLY HAVE ANY EXCIUSE when THERE is so much evidence without MY FAITH.. IN A FATHER SON AND HOLY SPIRIT. NO GOD NO SON NO SHED BLOOD NO GENESIS NO JOHN AND NO IASAIH OR REVELATION NO BIBLE GOSPEL NO LAW OF LOVE MERCY OR SALVATION FORGIVENESS FOR ANYONE NOT EVEN ME OR YOU> IF NO CHRIST JESUS CROSS JERUSALEM BETHLEHEM AND NO PEOPLE CALLED JEWISH THAT MOSES WAS SENT WITH AARON TO FREE FROM THE PHAROAH EGYPTIANS. THE PHAROAH IS MENTIONED AND WRITTEN OF AGAIN IN THE NEW TESTAMENT .. 9; &10; OF ROMANS.
    The Moses of Genesis thru Deteronomy never got to CROSS OVER TO THE NEW LAND OF CANAAN LAND ACROSS THE JORDEN RIVER. YET FROM MOSES to JOHN PETER PAUL AND MARY AND JOSEPH CHRIST OUR SAVIOR OUR FORGIVER OUR GATEWAY TO THAT THIRD HEAVEN. IS A truth
    NOW can I as a ny woman on earth living breathing physical person MAKE ANYONE have the FAITH I HAVE the SADDNESS I HAVE for TODAYS CHILDREN that are yet not understanding anything OF A CREATOR LAW LORD AND A MAN CALLED CHRIST JESUS because so many DENY argue about and disagree about the WRITTEN INSPIRED WORD written FOR them also that have either been aborted because of not wanting them because of disability that a man called a dr says is NOT PERFECT and might have problems. YET MY EXPIERENCE has been that CHILDREN THAT ARE BORN with DISABLING HANDCAPS are the MOST LOVING AMONG ANY OF US. WHAT A sham to KILL a LIVING BLOOD BOUGHT CHILD OF THE LIVING GOD TO HAVE ITS LIFE TAKEN because THAT BOY OR GIRL WITH A BEATING HEART within TO PUMP THE LIFE GIVEING BLOOD THAT IS the LIFE OF EVEN ALL MANKIND THAT HAVE believed in the FATHER the SON and the HOLY SPIRIT THAT HAD A BOOK NUMBER OF BOOKS 62 FROM GENESIS TO REVELATION BY woman that according to SCRIPTURE WE were fashioned by the very hand of THE HEAVENLY FATHER OF MANKIND HEAVENS AND EARTH. REMEMBER THE ANGELS HAVE ALWAYS been with the CREATOR ONE FELL TAKING A THIRD with him what of the rest ??? THAT ARE YET with the FATHER CREATOR OF ALL ??????? what is their song TODAY/// ARE THEY CELEBRATING OR DOES THE TEARS OF our HEAVENLY FATHER BECAUSE OF HIS LOST… HE I HAVE READ HAS A BOTTLE FOR MINE.. I Have a GLOBE MARTY that CHANGES colors. b from green to blue to red the first time i saw the earth the globe covered in that red I cried why? because this is whatMY LORD SEES lookig down from that MENTIONED THIRD HEAVEN and someday I shall RETURN TO where all those that have gone before me I shall see again.. WOULD YOU or would any want to argue that truth ??? IF SO argue with another not me..
    THANK YOU MARTY for a FREE WILL and FREE CHOICE and FREE FIRE ZONE
    NO MARTY I AM far from being perfect.. ONLY one can be called PERFECT and SINLESS.. HIS NAME CHRIST JESUS HE is RISEN AND LIVES even TODAY… TOMORROW will be whether i am here or there.I CAN not CHANGE TOMORROWS troubles anymore then I can stop the RAIN from FALLING DOWN. I must go now.. OR I will continue saying more and people get bored not to mention cannot read CAPITAL LETTERS:):):):):):)

  9. Anonymous says:

    by Suzanne on Fri 14 Mar 2008 02:41 PM PDT
    Well both posts show up as ANOMYNOUS .. while I post this post YET ONE SAYS it was written By someone called anomynous and then the one above reads Bauch now changed to anonymous, AND BOTH HAVE ME AS the POSTER.. NOT GOOD .. BECAUSE I NEVER wrote the last two postings the Two after the So called Video that doe not work. here been removed yet it was transfered from YOU TUBE. I never did that either . Seems there can be TROLLS ANYWHERE> JUST MAYBE. TROLLS ARE people that use anothers Idenity THINKING IT IS OK FUNNY AND AND GREAT JOKES .. NOT!!!!!!!!!!! never was and never has been nice to take advantage of people when they are not aware of what the joke was supposed to be about in the first place. sometims Jokes can backfire bigtime on those whom thought it was funny or done in the interest of another person. BAD TRICKS ARE JUST THAT, BAD.. NEVER GOOD.. NOW AS for the POPES NEW SINS..

    What makes them trolls? It looks like you can post without signing on, this is probably a good thing because some people won't regester. That's just my take on it.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Well let's check it out.. Let you know what happens..

  11. Anonymous says:

    Agree that people shouldn't use this as a political issue … it is a medical and social issue. I also agree with Bill Clinton. But it is also true, that it is sinful to use abortion as a primary birth control method. Russia did that, and their self loathing is such, their population is still in decline.
    Shalom

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