War on Christmas

Written by Christianity and the Confusion on November 30th, 2005

Author: Marty Martorella

   There was a time when Christians objected to the commercialization of Christmas. Some thirty years ago there was a real concern that too much emphasis was being put on retailers making a buck rather than on the real meaning of Christmas. For many the holiday has become nothing more than an excuse for self indulgence. In today’s world Christmas has become little more than a holiday and the Christmas tree has become a holiday tree with many material goods under it. In this sort of Christmas there is little room for Christ and without Him all we have is a holiday.

   There are those who are trying to make political points by claiming that there is a war on Christmas. They say that because some retailers have greetings that say happy holidays rather than Merry Christmas. It would seem that some are more caught up in the merchandizing of Christmas than in the message of Christmas. Such is the case with the opportunist Bill O’Reilly who put this spin in it.

The O'Reilly Factor, with guest and fellow Fox News host John Gibson about “which American stores are using 'Christmas' in advertising this Christmas season and which are not.” Gibson is the author of “The War on Christmas: How the Liberal Plot to Ban the Sacred Christian Holiday Is Worse Than You Thought.”

O'REILLY: “We continue our reporting on which American stores are using “Christmas” in advertising this Christmas season and which are not… Again, our litmus test is which operations are using the greeting “Merry Christmas” in their advertising and which are not.” … “it's all part of the secular progressive agenda … to get Christianity and spirituality and Judaism out of the public square.” He then added: “[B]ecause if you look at what happened in Western Europe and Canada, if you can get religion out, then you can pass secular progressive programs.” Media Matters

   Mr. O’Reilly is missing the point that Christmas is not about saying “Merry Christmas” but about Jesus coming to save the world. If he realized that the answer to all the world’s ills are found in Christ and not in saying the magic words of “Merry Christmas” or in having a profitable Christmas, maybe he would not have been caught in those scandles.

   It should not be a surprise to anyone that market place is unlikely to display the true message of Christ. For Jesus was not about making money but rather about reaching out to the lost and broken world. The Christ that I know would feed the hungry, cloth the naked, and offer shelter to the homeless. He would go to those who need Him most, instead of the self-righteous and the rich. He would not have attack those who suffer the most in their lives. Jesus would have healed the sick free of charge. He would not have worried about those with a different life style. He would treat the aged with respect and dignity. He would show love to the world, for He came not to condemn the world rather to save it. So, He would reach out to this sick and dying world with hope and a vision of a new life. I say all this because He is the God of love who brings the promise of brighter tomorrows. Maybe the problem is not whether people say “MERRY CHRISTMAS” but rather it is that far too many say it void of Jesus Christ.

   I was wondering why O’Reilly and Fox was spinning this so much until it came out that they were using this to promote Samuel Alito for the Supreme Court. Now I have no problem with anyone wanting Alito, but to use this dishonest ploy should be a red flag to everyone.

This year, some conservative groups hope to add a new name to that pantheon of heroes: Judge Samuel Alito, the Supreme Court nominee.

“Liberal groups like People for the American Way and the ACLU have opposed public Christmas and Hanukkah displays and even fought to keep Christmas carols out of school,” declares a radio commercial paid for by the conservative Committee for Justice. The ad began running Monday in Colorado, Wisconsin and West Virginia, states whose senators are considered pivotal votes on Alito. . . .

The Rev. Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said the Christmas appeals were “just political pandering.” Link

   Using Christmas or Christianity to promote a political agenda is the same as taking the Lord’s name in vain. It is as much profane to use God for ones own desires as it is to use profanity with a reference to God. This poll asks for your opinion as to such misuse of Christmas and Christianity.



   

 

 

 

 

 

Focus on the Family Reported a related story which calls for the boycott of Target stores:

The American Family Association is launching a boycott of Target stores this Thanksgiving weekend in response to the retail giant’s ban of the Salvation Army at their stores and the phrase “Merry Christmas” from their advertising. Target spokesperson, Carolyn Brookter says it’s true, the Salvation Army is not allowed to solicit in front of their stores. The ban started last year.

   This is verified at Urban Legends. I wrote Target to ask why they had banned the Salvation Army, this is their reply however they never answered the question as to why.

 

Dear Marty,

We notified the Salvation Army in January 2004 that we would no longer allow the seasonal bell ringers due to our no-solicitation policy which ensures a distraction-free shopping environment for all our guests. Our policy decision remains unchanged.

This holiday season, Target has teamed together with the Salvation Army to create  Target/Salvation Army Wish List, an online site to provide essential items for those impacted by recent hurricanes, and other individuals and families in need across the country. From November 25, 2005 through January 25, 2006 visitors to Target.com/salvationarmy can view and purchase clothing, household items, personal products and Gift Cards to be donated to families across the country. The Salvation Army will distribute the purchased items. 

Although we don’t allow the placement of kettles outside of our stores, our support of the great work that the Salvation Army does in local communities continues and we have explored innovative fundraising initiatives that benefit their work. In fact, Target was the primary underwriter of “Shelter From the Storm,” an entertainment fundraising event, which recently raised more than $30 million, with proceeds going to the Red Cross and the Salvation Army for hurricane relief.

Target provides grants to faith-based organizations, including the Salvation Army, to be used for non-religious purposes such as programs providing food and shelter. Through our Take Charge of Education program, we've provided millions of dollars in support to parochial education. Any tax exempt organization that meets our guidelines for giving may apply for a Target grant. Any information you’ve heard that Target doesn’t give to faith-based Christian and Jewish organizations is simply untrue.

Target supports the work of many local Salvation Army chapters across the country under our corporate grants and giving guidelines. Here are a few examples of grants provided to local Salvation Army chapters in 2005:
- Monroe, LA – Educational Services Organization
- Passaic, NJ – Salvation Army Family Enrichment (SAFE)
- Dallas, TX – Domestic Violence Prevention Program
- Phoenix, AZ – Domestic Violence Shelter
- Monterey Bay Peninsula, CA, - Building Confident Families

If you’d like to donate to the Salvation Army personally, just call 1-800-SAL-ARMY or visit their Web site at Salvationarmy.org.

Thanks for taking the time to share your questions, thoughts and comments.

Sincerely,

Jennifer Hanson
Target Executive Offices

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22 Comments so far ↓

  1. Anonymous says:

    I don

  2. Anonymous says:

    To add to what I said, I think the politicizing is being done by those forcing the changing of the greeting. It's not Happy Holidays, it's Merry Christmas for crying out loud!

  3. Anonymous says:

    Pet, I

  4. Anonymous says:

    Thank you Grandma and a Merry Christmas back at you. I do believe that the stores using

  5. Anonymous says:

    How nice that Bill O

  6. Anonymous says:

       I remember hearing the stories of how my Great-Grandfather would during the depression help the homeless. On one occasion he bought them a Christmas tree and a turkey. They decorated the tree with what ever they could find and for them that Christmas had more meaning than it did for many rich living in the lap of luxury. Maybe Mr. O

  7. Anonymous says:

    Walking through K-Mart and Wal-Mart over Labor Day weekend, I was dismayed to see Christmas “stuff” already on the shelves.
    We also get a two month hype of continuous Christmas(?) music over the airwaves and in stores. Then, as if on signal, this all ceases on midnight, December 25.
    In my church, we occasionally sing a traditional Christmas hymn at other times of the year.

  8. Anonymous says:

    Jessica, why do you have to attack Bill O'Reilly? He's an honable man and he's right on this, there are people who want Christmas and any thing about Christ removed. There really is a war on Christmas!!!

  9. Anonymous says:

       It is true that the Christians that the right likes to call the founding fathers did outlaw Christmas. It was not that they were promoting a secular agenda but rather practiced a very devout life. For them such a day would not have been a holiday but a Holy Day spent in prayer and praise to the Almighty God.

        Fox News Poll: Not Fooled by Bill O'Reilly's fake Christmas war O'Reilly cannot even win his fake Christmas war in the hearts and minds of Fox viewers; 48% of them do not believe that there is any such war: Clearly people like Mr. O’Reilly are merchandizing of Christmas. They do so not for the glory of God but for the blessings of the almighty dollar.

  10. Anonymous says:

    They're missing the most important part of Christmas. It's not money; it's the love and joy that comes from opening our hearts to God.

  11. Anonymous says:

    I love all the Christmas cartoons, what is sad is that they have more creditability than O

  12. Anonymous says:

    Hello Marty.. I got the email which has brought me back here again .. Whenever anything comes to my attention about GODS WORD and OUR LORD and SAVIOR CHRIST JESUS then I am admonished to at least make some response if there is unchin to do so.. SUCH was your email and of course as I read here about the War From others and hearing on TV FOX NEWS about all the ADVERSITY AGAINST the CHRISTMAS TREE, THE SPEAKING OF MERRY CHRISTMAS, and THE LACK OF peoples NOT RECOGNIZING THE MEANING OF THE SEASON WINTER OR NOT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. I am ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE THAT GOD NOR The SON CARES AT ALL ABOUT OUR MAKING A DAY TO RECOGNIZE HIM AS HIS BIRTHDAY>> FOR the TRUTH IS WE should MAKE “””EACH AND EVERY DAY HIS DAY””””!!!!!! The CHRISTMAS SEASON and THE DAY WE COMMEMORATE IS FOR US!!! TO REMEMBER HIS BIRTH and what a JOY and BLESSING WE HAVE been given TO LIVE This life as HE will for us to live it. TO HIS will and FOR HIS PLEASURE and ALL GLORY be TO GOD for all we do say and as we live this life He has given us.. That said I AM APPALLED AT the people that are trying so desperately to remove any and all things that would REMIND ALL THAT CHRIST LIVES!!! AND GOD IS REAL and present in our lives. INCLUDING MAKING LAWS THAT STOP ALL BELIEVERS IN THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD JESUS CHRIST AND THAT whom HE HAS SENT TO ALL THAT HAVE AND DO AND WILL BELIEVETHAT being THAT BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. THOSE OF UNBELIEF DO NOT SEE HIS PRESENCE NOR HEAR HIS PRESENCE OR KNOW HIS PRESENCE because they have not taken any time to LISTEN TO HIS PRESENCE all around THEM and within them.I submit to all that without the READING OF The WORD NO ONE will ever KNOW THE WORD and WILL never be able to UNDERSTAND HIS TRUTH MUCH LESS have HIS REALITY MANIFESTED IN THEIR LIVES. IT ALL begins with FAITH IN THAT whom one does not see BUT KNOWS within that HE IS TRUE REAL AND DOES LOVE US SO MUCH that HE GAVE ALL HE HAD TO GIVE . OF HIMSELF HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON. WE CALL JESUS, BECAUSE HE is the RISEN CHRIST HE IS THE ONE THAT was sent to a dark and DYING WORLD .. and HE HAS come to save it.. and THE SOONER we as mankind realize HIS TRUTH in this the sooner we can HAVE all we are entitled to which is PEACE JOY HAPPINESS AND LOVE IN AND THROUGH HIM FOREVER . KNOWING THAT whether we are alive or dead we are HIS FOREVER BECAUSE HE WAS IS AND WILL ALWAYS be the RESURRECTION, the TRUTH AND THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD HE HAS BEEN SENT TO SAVE.
    WE HAVE been given this life to live it and to have and live it abundently in HIM THROUGH HIM and BY HIM. and HE CARES not about HIS BIRTHDAY being celebrated FOR HIM. BUT neither does HE CARE THAT WE do it TO REMEMBER HIM and who we are IN HIM.. SO with all that said ALL YOU CHRISTIANS!!! BELIEVERS IN CHRIST JESUS AND OUR HEAVENLY FATHER CREATOR THAT HAS CREATED ALL INCLUDING MANKIND!!!! JESUS CAME TO DIE ONCE FOR ALL AND HE HAS NOT AND WILL NOT LEAVE ANY BEHIND.. FOR HE IS KING of kings and LORD of lords and GOD of gods. and THUS SAYETH THE LORD;; the KINGDOM OF GOD is within you.. and it does not come with observation . and when they say 'GO HERE', or 'GO THERE', Or if they say; ' Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, [he is] in the secret chambers; believe [it] not.
    ALL CHRISTIAN BELIEVERS MUST COME TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN.. RECIEVE THIS TRUTH. RECIEVE HIS COVENANT OF THE SACRIFICE THAT WAS GIVEN ONCE AND FOR ALL….. RECIEVE HIS PROMISE , RECIEVE HIS BAPTISM, RECIEVE THAT BAPTISM OF HIS SPIRIT!!!!! that HE HAS HAD WRITTEN , PREACHED, TOLD, TAUGHT AND PROPHECIED BY ISAIAH 44;3:, Joel 2;18:-3;10: John 1:33: 14;15:-18:, 15;26:,27: 16; 1:-15: This Blessing of His BAPTISM and HIS KINGDOM is FOR ALL AND ANY THAT ARE willing to RECIEVE IT AND HIM UNTO THEMSELVES.. IF YOU READ the SCRIPTURES posted and COME TO UNDERSTAND THAT JESUS CHRIST HAS COME, SUFFERED, BEEN PIERCED, AND HAS DIED AND RISEN AGAIN SHEDDING HIS BLOOD FOR YOU. as well as for me . and all mankind and the world HE HAS CREATED and MADE. THEN THIS CHRISTMAS… THE DAY WE AS CHRISTIANS CELBRATE the BIRTH OF OUR SAVIOR . that is REAL and present in our lives. BE VERY THANKFUL for the life HE has GIVEN YOU and RECIEVE HIS LOVE, HIS SPIRIT BAPTISM and PRAISE and WORSHIP HIM FOR HIS LOVE, MERCY, AND GRACE. THEN TESTIFY to THIS TRUTH THAT YOU ALSO now know IS THE LIFE , THE TRUTH and THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD.. I HAVE SAID for the LAST six years or more that a FIRESTORM IS COMING!!! well folks the FIRESTORM IS HERE> and IT IS THE HOLY SPIRIT AND HIS TRUTH that WAS , IS < and FOREVER WILL BE THE WORD OF GOD ALMIGHTY. that HE HAS HAD WRITTEN for us to COME TO REmember who we are IN HIM THROUGH HIM and BY HIM.. LET YOUR LIGHT SHINE TO ALL YOU SEE, all YOU MEET and ALL YOU TALK TO , and MOST OF ALL REMEMBER THAT ALL people HAVE The ABILITY TO HAVE THE same BAPTISM YOU HAVE RECEIVED and WHEN YOUR LIFE IS OVER here YOU SHALL KNOW THAT YOU HAVE done all YOU KNEW and UNDERSTOOD TO do which was LIVE THIS LIFE EACH and every day as GOD WILLS for you recieveing all the BLESSINGS HE HAS for you while you are here. FOR HIS BLESSINGS ARE MANY IF WE RECIEVE THEM when they come before us and recognize them when HE sends them and puts them before us.. ALL GLORY BE TO the LORD GOD AND SAVIOR OG+F THE WORLD and MANKIND. FOR IF IT WERE NOT for the BLOOD NONE OF US would ever have this life to live.. and NO HOPE and NO REWARD to recieve when HE comes again. and HE will come again .. and NONE KNOW the hour or the day.

  13. Anonymous says:

    I don't know what's the reason for all the ? is. I tried to see if I’d be able to make it do it.

  14. Anonymous says:

    What's next? Getting mad because someone told the kids that Santa wasn't real?

  15. Anonymous says:

    As usual you said a lot Sue, but it's all good. The way I see it is that those who are making the most noise about it don't really care about the real meaning of Christmas anyway. This year Christmas day falls on Sunday, I wonder just how many of these whiners will go to Church?

  16. Anonymous says:

    Well Marty I do not go to church either . Yet I believe in GOD The Father, The Word, and The Holy Spirit, And that includes the baptism of the Holy Spirit of whom many think we are crzy and fanatical. :):):)

  17. Anonymous says:

       I think you are saying that to Jessica and I would add that Church attendance is only helpful if the church is submitted to God and we have the same attitude. I have talked to many people who complain that there are a lot of hypocrites in the church which is true, but where would you expect to see religious hypocrites? For those types it is like joining a club not the life altering experience that comes from a real relationship with God. They are the same sort that would have no quandary about putting on a white sheet and terrorizing a Black family. They would even burn a cross and think that they were serving the Lord. Jesus said, “An hour is coming for everyone who kills you to think that he is offering service to God.” (Jn16:2) Many use that excuse to keep from becoming a Christian, but that would mean that the hypocrites are between them and God. For me I do not someone who is not right with the Lord to keep me from being right with or knowing Him. Looking at what Jess wrote before I think she is talking about O’Reilly. My only comment is that anyone who expects the people on TV to be the same in real life is in for a real shocker. I know that O’Reilly lacks very much creditability, but focus on the family also reported it.

       I do believe that the so called war on Christmas is nothing more that political posturing, but we can use it as a tool to share Christ. We can use it to start the conversation and then start sharing what Jesus has done in our lives. Instead of allowing the devil to use this as a wedge issue which divides we can use it to bring people together. There is a little that we can agree with on both sides and then move to what really matters, Jesus. We can start talking about why He had to come into the world and what he left the world with. The hope and peace that we hear about this time of year refers to the personal hope and peace that comes when we surrender our will to God. When we accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior there is a peace that comes. It is that peace which says that all will be okay, that God will never let us down. I try to play the peacemaker, that often times allows be to turn the conversation to Jesus and how He can change anyone’s life for the better.

  18. Anonymous says:

    Marty,
    I am getting so tired of the radical fundamentalist right calling liberals godless. What they are doing and saying is totally and Unchristian. As a matter of fact, from the way I read and understand the teachings of Christ, it is almost a certainty that true Christians are liberals. Just to observe and keep his teachings in The Sermon on the Mount would most certainly make a person a liberal in today’s way of looking at things. I have addressed some of these things in other posts, and especially one titled “Old Testament Christians.”
    So many of these fanatic right-wing “Christians” only want Christianity their way. There is no room for any others. I am totally opposed to the tactics of Robertson, Falwell, et.al.
    Christianity is not something that can be jammed down someone’s throat, nor is applying a guilt trip to the prospective convert. Jesus himself said that you should present the message, and if the one to whom the message was presented did not respond, to shake the dust of your sandals and leave. We must invite Jesus into our hearts. He will not enter by any other way.
    Decisions on social issues, i.e., abortion, lotteries, and others are not to be forced upon anyone. But an individual matter. What I think has happened is that the radical right-wing fundamentalists have failed in their mission, and because of the way they have presented it. Now they are imploring the government to decree and make these social issues the law of the land as viewed by the radical right. The liberal Christian is alive and well, Thank God!!! He has been turning the other cheek to fundamentalist’s attacks, but it’s time we stood up defended ourselves.

  19. Anonymous says:

    Trendsetter. I do not want to force The Word of God, His Holy Spirit, Nor His Truth, Or reality that Is in my life OF HIM DOWN ANYBODIES THROAT. The problem is that when WE AS CHRISTIANS, try LIVING OUR FAITH. BY DOING WHAT IS RIGHT TO DO, CORRECTING YOUR BROTHER. we get KNOCKED DOWN AND ARE TOLD TO KEEP OUR MOUTH SHUT that THEIR BELIEF and their WAY and their FAITH IS A PERSONAL THING and they do not want to discuss GOD, THE WORD, THE TRUTH OR ANYTHING ELSE HAVING TO DO with HIM AND HIS REALITY IN OUR LIVES,, LET ALONE FACE HIS REALITY IN THEIRS!!!!!
    That MY FRIEND is ONLY BECAUSE They KNOW THAT what they do is wrong to begin with and do not like being reminded of their UNRIGHTEOUS ACTIONS and deeds. WELL GUESS what NEITHERDO ANY OF US who have come to understand who we are IN HIM and HE IN US and THAT WITHOUT HIM and HIS REALITY in or lives being manifested to us we would still be doing all those UNGODLY horrible DEEDS THAT we used to do without giveing it any thought . ALL because we WOULD HAVE NEVER understood that IT IS THAT BAPTISM that RECIEVING , CONFESSING and BELIEVING IN OUR HEARTS that JESUS CHRIST really IS the ONLY WAY. the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of GOD and THAT HE REALLY IS and HAS been MADE KING of kings and LORD of loerds and that THERE is NO OHER GOD THE FATHER , THE WORD, and the HOLY SPIRIT and they all three WITNESSES in heaven and are ONE… IT is this very baptism that has been written of, promised to be sent, and manifested to us that we can TESTIFY TO HIS REAL PRESENCE in our lives. BUT NONE want to be REMINDED OF Their sinful unrighteous behavior and disobedience to the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY IN ALL their WRONGS THEY ARE doing NOT WANTING TO be CHANGED NOT wanting to be CORRECTED BY BROTHERS AND SISTERS that have come to this TRUTH CONFESSED HIM AND HAVE BEEN AND RECIEVED the truth of that very promise that was made years before we ever were brought into this world through OUR MOTHERS WOMB!!!!!
    YOU SAID; “Christians only want CHRISTIANITY THEIR WAY” NO WE do not say that. IT WAS and has been written FOR US TO SAY THAT there is only ONE WAY TO THE FATHER. and that is through HIM WHOM HE HAS SENT to this earth to save it BY THE SHED BLOOD OF HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON. IF it were not for the CROSS, and NOT FOR THE SUFFERING AND DEATH AND BURIEL AND HIM BEING RESURRECTED from that death HE WAS IN. NONE of us would have any hope and no life and no HOPE OF any age to come. THAT HAS been already promised BY THAT SAME one we come testifying of. and PROPHECING ABOUT. FOR HE SHALL come again and when He does come HIS REWARD will be with HIM. THE QUESTION remains to all that have not CONFESSED HIM AS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD , with YOUR MOUTH . AND MANY HAVE REFUSED TO ADMIT and say YES TO THE NAME OF JESUS BUT DENY HIS VERY NAME, TRUTH, AND PRESENCE IN THEIR LIFE. BY CONTINMUEING IN ALL THOSE WICKED DEEDS THEY KNOW ARE A SIN > FOR NONE CAN SAY THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE SINS ARE. FOR HE HAS SO APTLY pointed them out from the very first. WE ALL HAVE SINNED. and IF NOT FOR THE GRACE< and LOVE OF GOD WE ALL WOULD PERIOSHFOREVER INTO THE PIT OF HELL FOREVER. NEVER TO BE REDEEMED BACK TO THE FATHER IN HEAVEN THAT HAS GIVEN US THIS LIFE TO BEGIN WITH!!!!!!!!! YET GRACE does not give us a LICENSE TO CONTINUE IN OUR SINFUL ACTIONS once we know what sin we are committing. IT HAS been WRITTEN SAID TAUGHTAND MADE KNOWN. TO ALL THAT HAVE EARS TO HEAR and ARE ABLE TO RECIEVE HIS TRUTH!!!!!! CALL NONE TEACHER! FOR ONE IS YOUR TEACHER. CALL NONE RABBI, CALL NONE FATHER, for ONE IS YOUR FATHER. THE KINGDOM OF GOD DOES NOT COME WITH OBSERVATION, THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN YOU. HE IS THE GOD OF HOSTS! GOD IS SPIRIT! and IF ONE IS TO WORSHIP GOD, ONE MUST WORSHIP HIM IN SPIRIT AND TRUTH, NOW TRENDSETTER... IF ONE CANNOT BELIEVE IN THE WRITTEN WORD THAT IS AVAILABLE TO ALL TO READ OF HIM!!!!, RECIEVE HIS TRUTH OF WHAT HE HAS HAD WRITTEN FOR US, AND RECIEVE THAT PROMISE BY FAITH!!!! IN THE WORD AS IT IS BEING GIVEN BY OTHERS THAT KNOW AND CAN COME TESTIFYING TO HIS REALITY AND PRESENCE IN THEIR LIVES. BUT THEY GET SHUT DOWN AT THE VERY MENTION OF THE WORD HE GIVES THEM TO SPEAK !!!!! FULFILLING THE VERY WORDS THAT HE HAS HAD WRITTEN. THEN YOU DO NOT AND HAVE NOT UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE WORD OF GOD HAS SAID DONE AND CONTINUES TO DO THIS VERY DAY ... DOING JUST AS IS PROMISED SENDING HIS COMFORTER TOP ALL THAT ARE WILLING AND ABLE TO BELIEVE BY FAITH IN THAT WHONM HE HAS SENT> and JUST who HAS HE SENT TO YOU TODAY ???? TRENDSETTER??? JUST who HAS HE SENT TO YOU TODAY?????? FOR IT IS THIS DAY>> THAT THE LORD HATH MADE FOR YOU!>>>> WILL YOU DENY HIM AND THE WORD HE HAS SENT TO GIVE YOU?? HIS REALITY AND TRUTH??????? OR WILL YOU RECIEVE IT AND LIFE AND NOT DEATH> FOR YOU AND YOUR DECENDANTS.. BELIEVING IN THAT VERY PERSON OF HIS HOLY SPIRIT AND RECIEVE THAT BAPTISM ALSO!!!!!!! BY FAITH IN THAT JESUS CHRIST< THE CROSS< THAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN OF TAUGHT AND PREACHED AND ENTER INTO THAT KINGDOM OF GOD THAT IS ABLE TO BE ENTERED INTO BY ONLY ONE WAY !!!!! through the ONLY DOOR!!!! ONE WAY>> HE AND HE ALONE IS THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT AND HE IS THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER> THUS SAYETH THE LORD! “NONE COME TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME>” HE IS THE ONE THAT CAME TO SET the CAPTIVES FREE< AND HE LIVES AND REIGNS TODAY!!!! IN THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF MEN AND WOMAN THAT HAVE BEEN SET FREE BY HIS HOLY NAME THAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD TO CALL HIS NAME JESUS AND HIS PROMISE IS MANIFESTED TO US EVERY DAY!! FOR THE ONE THAT IS SET FREE IN CHRIST JESUS IS FREE INDEED>
    NOW THE ONLY THING WE AS CHRISTIANS WANT IS FOR ALL MEN TO BE SET FREE> FOR THERE ARE WAY TO MANY CAPTIVES THAT ARE STILL OUT THERE THAT DO NOT EVEN REALIZE THE CAPTIVITY THEY ARE CAPTIVE OF!!!!!!!!!! FOR YOU EITHER SERVE AND BELIEVE IN THE FATHER THAT HAS GIVEN YOU LIFE and ARE SET FREE BY HIS TRUTH HE HAS GIVEN FOR YOU> OR YOU STAY A SLAVE TO THE LIES AND THE LIAR THAT DESTROYS ALL THAT IS GODLY AND OF GOD ALMIGHTY THAT VERY SPIRIT AND REFUSE TO RECIEVE HIS BAPTISM> BY REFUSEING TO BELIEVE THAT ONE THAT PROMISED TO SEND IT AND WE CALL HIS NAME JESUS the FIRST OF THE RESURRECTION RISEN CAME IN THE FLESH CHRIST JESUS..
    NO TRENDSETTER> WE do not wish nor want to FORCE ANYTHING DOWN YOUR THROATS> all we want is FOR YOU TO JOIN WE who have ALREADY ENTERED INTO THE KINGDOM TO COME AND FOLLOW US AS WE HAVE FOLLOWED HIM BY BELIVING< BY FAITH RECIEVING AND CONFESSING HIS NAME TO ALL THE WORLD THAT WILL HEAR> AND BELIEVE ALSO AS WE HAVE BELIEVED AND FOLLOW HIS COMMANDMENT THAT is a ROYAL COMMANDMENT OF THE KING whom WE KNOW IS OUR HEAVENLY FATHER FOR WE KNOW NO OTHER GOD BUT ONE!!!!!!!!!! HE WAS THE WORD IS THE WORD ALWAYS WILL BE THE WORD , GOD THE FATHER , THE WORD, and HOLY SPIRIT< THE THREE WITNESSERS IN HEAVEN AND THEY ARE ONE.>
    THERE ARE THREE WITNESSES ON THIS EARTH. THE WATER, THE BLOOD, AND THE SPIRIT and THEY AGREE AS ONE.
    WE ARE BORN ONCE BY WATER AND THE BLOOD< AND WE MUST BE BORN AGAIN OF THE SPIRIT> TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
    NOW TRENDSETTER .. THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN WRITTEN SAID Y TAUGHT AND IS FULFILLED IN ANY AND ALL THAT BELIEVE BY FAITH IN WHAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN SAID AND TAUGHT> FOR THUS SAYETH THE LORD: DO NOT MARVEL THAT I SAID YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN. FOR THE WIND BLOWS WHERE IT WISHES, YOU HEAR THE SOUND OF IT, BUT CANNOT TELL WHERE IT COMES FROM and WHERE IT GOES. SO IS EVERYONE WHO IS BORN OF THE SPIRIT.
    CAST YOUR BREAD UPON THE WATERS, FOR YOU WILL FIND IT AFTER MANY DAYS. GIVE A SERVING to SEVEN, and ALSO TO EIGHT, FOR YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT EVIL WILL BE ON THE EARTH. IF THE CLOUDS ARE FULL OF RAIN, THEY EMPTY THEMSELVES UPON THE EARTH; AND IF A TRE FALLS TO THE SOUTH or TO THE NORTH, IN THAT PLACE WHERE THE TREE FALLS ,THERE IT SHALL LIE. HE WHO OBSERVES THE WIND WILL NOT SOW, AND HE WHO REGARDS THE CLOUDS WILL NOT REAP. AS YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS THE WAY OF THE WIND, (SPIRIT) OR HOW THE BONES GROW IN THE WOMB OF HER WHO IS WITH CHILD, SO YOU DO NOT KNOW THE WORKS OF GOD WHO MAKES EVERYTHING.
    FAITH!!!!!!!! TRENDSETTER, COMES BY HEARING and HEARING BY THE WORD…. IF WE CANNOT BELIEVE THE WORD THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO US INN The BOOK OF BOOKS HE HAS HAD WRITTEN FOR US ALL. TO READ AND LEARN OF HIM AND THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD AND ALL HE HAS MADE AND CONTINUES MAKING……. WHOM IS THAT MAN HE HAS CREATED IN HIS IMAGE!!!!!!! then JUST WHAT CAN AND WHAT WILL WE EVER HAVE FAITH IN BELIEVE IN OR TRUST IN OR HAVE ANY HOPE IN FOR IF GOD AND HIS WORDS ARE NOT A TRUTH FOR US ALL THEN NONE ARE SAVED AND WE ALL PERISH AND ARE DOOMED TO A HELL WE REALLY SHOULD NEVER WANT TO BE SENT TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BUT BE REDEEMED BACK TO HIM WHOM WE HAVE COME FROM THIS IS OUR HOPE< AND OUR VISION AND WE SHALL BE WITH HIM AGAIN SOMEDAY> IF!!!! WE HAVE DONE THE FIRST WORK OF GOD!!!!!! YOU SHALL FIND THAT WORK TRENDSETTER TELLING YOU WHJAT THAT WORK IS!!!!! IN HIS BOOK OF BOOKS HE HAS ALREADY HAD WRITTEN FOR US >> IN JOHN 6;29: CHOICES WE ALL HAVE THEM TO MAKE AND THE CHOICE TO DO HIS WORK IS AN INDIVIDUAL CHOICE AND NO ONE ELSE WILL EVER MAKE IT FOR YOU!!!! IT IS YOURS ALONE TO MAKE JUST AS IT IS FOR EACH AND EVERYONE THAT HAS GONE BEFORE YOU AND MADE IT!! OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHERE TODAY TRENDSETTER WILL YOU PUT YOUR FAITH TODAY IN MEN WHO LIE OR IN THE WORD OF GOD THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO YOU TODAY TO READ AND HEAR AND SEE AND BELIEVE. READ JOHN 6;29: THEN GO BACK AND READ THE PROPHECIES THAT HAVE been given about HIS COMING , then READ the FULFILLMENT OF HIS COMING, READ ABOUT HIS DEATH BURIEL AND RESURRECTION THAT WAS WRITTEN OF IN THE O. TESTAMENT FULLFILLED IN THE N. TESTAMENT. THEN READ OF THE TESTIMONY THAT IS WRITTEN AND GIVEN IN THE LAST BOOK OF HIS BOOK. THAT REVEALS HIS TRUTH AND REALITY AND WHO THE LORD IS OF US ALL!!!!!!AND ALL THAT HAS EVER BEEN BEFORE US, NOW IS AND WILL COME AFTER US. READ THE PROPHECY THAT IS TO THIS DAY GIVEN >> and will come to pass SOMEDAY FOR US ALL.. THEN READ what we are to do UNTIL HE DOES come. REVELATION 22: 17:
    THEN YOU JUST MIGHT COME TO UNDESTAND who WE ARE and why WE ARE HERE and for what reason WE COME TESTIFYING TO YOU THIS DAY!! IF NOT Then THE WORDS SPOKEN IN REVELATION 21;8: shall be fulfilled.
    ONE CANNOT KNOW GOD IF THEY HAVE NOT BELIEVED HE IS. AND IF ONE CANNOT BELIEVE GOD IS Then they NEITHER CAN BELIEVE AND CONFESS HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, IF THEY CANNOT CONFESS THE SON THEN THEY CAN NEITHER KNOW WHAT HE HAS SAID AND DONE FOR THEM , AND PROMISED TO THEM < and IS ABLE TO GIVE THEM . IF THERE IS NO BELIEF IN THE ONE THEY HAVE NOT SEEN . then HOW WILL THEY BELIEVE IN THAT WHOM HE HAS SENT TO BE A WITNESS... THOSE THAT HAVE RECIEVED THE PROMISE, BY FAITH AND HAVE LIVED BY THAT FAITH ??? WE ALL SHALL BE JUDGED BY THE WORDS HE HAS SPOKEN. AND WE ALL WILL GIVE AN ACCOUNTING OF THE WORDS WE HAVE SPOKEN. IN THE LAST DAY>> WE ALL WILL someday HAVE TO D FACE HIM . and when we do WE BETTER HAVE KNOWN IN WHOM WE HAVE AS OUR WITNESS when we go before HIS THRONE. HAVE YOU BOWED YOUR KNEE before THE THRONE OF GOD AND SAT AT HIS FEET AS YET??? OR DO YOU EVEN REALIZE YOU CAN????? AND ALREADY ARE AT HIS FEET DAILY ????? IF NOT I AM HERE TO TELL YOU THAT THE EARTH IS HIS FOOTSTOOL AND HEAVEN IS HIS THRONE>> HOW DO I KNOW THIS ?? BECAUSE THE WORD HAS TOLD B ME SO AND GOD THE FATHER IS SPIRIT AND HE WAS IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE ONLY WORD WE CAN EVER BELIEVE TO BE A TRUE WORD AND HIS SPIRIT WITNESSES TO OUR spirit.. GETTING US RIGHT BACK TO again GOD is SPIRIT and to worshiop HIM ONE MUST worship HIM IN SPIRIT and truth ONE HAS NO TRUTH IN THEM if they have NOT RECIEVED HIS TRUTH of who HE IS IN THEM and HIM IN THEM and that COMES BY FAITH!!!!!!!!! and GOD HAS GIVEN EACH A MEASURE. IT IS UP TO US TO MAKE THAT SEED OF FAITH GROW!!!!!! CHOICE!!!!!!I NEVER REALLY HAD TO CHOOSE GOD!! FOR I HAVE NEVER HAD ANY QUESTION THAT GOD is real… have understanding NO and I still do not understand much . about this HEAVENLY FATHER I KNOW I HAVE .. BUT BELIEVE IN HIS FAITHFULNESS TO HIS WORD .. yes HE HAS BEEN FAITHFUL TO HIS WORD HE HAS HAD WRITTEN FOR ME TO LEARN OF HIM . and because I know this TRUTH I HAVE NO EXCUSE TO EVER DENY THAT whom HE has sent TO SAVE THE WORLD.. THAT ONLY BEGOTREN SON HE GAVE THAT I MIGHT BE SAVED AND HAVE LIFE ETERNALLY WITH HIM.
    WE ARE ALL VESSELS OF GOD. AND ALL GLORY IS HIS>> WE HAVE NONE …… IF WE ARE HIS WE ARE A GLORY TO HIM.. BUT WE GIVE ALL GLORY TO HIM FOR IT IS NOT OF OURSELVES WE DO AND SAY ANYTHING .. BUT THROUGH HIM AND HIS SPIRIT WE LIVE and have LIFE.. INDIVIDUAL CHOICE TO EITHER DENY HIM OR RECIEVE HIM…
    YOUR TURN TRENDSETTER.

  20. Anonymous says:

    Jessica the only thought that comes to mind here is THOSE THAT ARE WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE TOWARD THE INE YOU ARE ACCUSEING OF BEING A SINNER AND HYPOCRIT!!!!! INSTEAD OF CASTING STONES OF HATRED FOR THAT SIN HOW ABOYT FORGIB VING THEM AND PRAYING FOR THEIR GETTING SOME UNDERSTANDING OF THE TRUTH THAT IS WAITING FOR THEM TO RECIEVE>
    HAVE YOU NOT READ and UNDERSTOOD THE WORD > ” If YOUFORGIVE THE SINS OF ANY. THEY ARE FORGIVEN THEM, If YOU RETAIN the sins of any they are retained.”
    JESUS FORGAVE YOU while HE WAS ON THE CROSS… HOW COME YOU ARE NOT SO SURE HE FORGAVE O'RIELLY ALSO?????? ARE YOU OR ANY OF US ANY BETTER THEN HE???? I THINK NOT!!!!!!!! FOR ALL HAVE SINNED!!!… SO WHO IS BEING THE HYPOCRIT BUT THOSE THAT DO NOT RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH OF WHAT GOD HAS DONE FOR US ALL> AND THE WORLD HE HAS CREATED AND MADE AND HAS SENT THE BLOOD OF HIS SON AND THE BAPTISM OF HIS SPIRIT TO CLEANSE ALL AND SAVE ALL THAT HE LOVES !!!!! THAT WHICH IS ALL HIS FROM THE BEGINNING!!!!!!!!! I BELIEVE GOD CREATED MAN!!! CREATING THEM MALE AND FEMALE!!!!! TO BE IN HIS IMAGE>> TO HAVE DOMINION OVER HIS EARTH HE HAS CREATED FOR US TO RESIDE ON AND LIVE LIFE AND HAVE IT ABUNDENTLY THE PROPHECY AND PRAYER BEING FULFILLED. I SHALL PUT MY LAW IN THERE HEARTS AND I SHALL BE THEIR GOD AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE> I PRAY NOT JUST FOR THESE JESUS PRAYED > BUT FOR THOSE THAT WILL BELIEVE IN ME THROUGH THEIR WORD, that they all may be one as you Father that are in ME and I IN YOU and they also may be ONE IN US. ”
    THANK GOD HE IS RISEN AND NOT DEAD> HAVING OVERCOME THE WORLD , DEFEATING DEATH AND HAVING BEEN GIVEN ALL AUTHORITY IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH>
    WE BEING HIS NOW SITTING AT HIS FEET DAILY LOOKING TO HIM FOR OUR GUIDENCE AND FOLLOWING HIS LEAD AND HIS COMMANDMENT TO LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF. YOU WANT SOMEONE CALLING YOU A HYPOCRIT??? YOU WANT SOMEONE STEALING FROM YOU??? LYING TO YOU? CHEATING YOU OR YOU BEING HURT BY AN UNFAITHFUL HUSBAND OR WIFE??? IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT ?? TO BE DONE TO YOU????? OR DO YOU WANT TO HAVE HONESTY< FAITHFULNESS< AND LOVE GIVEN TO YOU BUY ALL THOSE YOU LOVE >>> OR DO N YOU NOT HAVE GODS LOVE IN YOU TO GIVE IT?????? ENOUGH SAID YOU SHOULD GET THE POINT>>>

  21. Anonymous says:

       Suzanne,

       I am sorry it took me a bit to get back to your post. You said some real truths, to which I wanted to add some point.

       One of the major goals of the blog is to counteract the alienation that many feel. For many of us who are not conservative Republicans have had our faith put into question by some who do not understand. There are those who are opportunities who try to manipulate people and do more to push people away from the Lord than bring them to Him. The truth is that God is neither a Republican nor a member of the Democratic Party. We try to show respect of those of all political persuasions even when we have strong opinions.

       Like you I try to witness on many message boards and the sad thing for me is finding other Liberals who have been so turned off to the message of Christ that they do not want to hear about Him. There is a reason why Jesus said that there will be those who will say, “Lord, Lord” and the Lord will say “I never knew you” to them. There are people who will use Jesus to make sales, to gain power and will say anything to mislead the people of God. This one reason we try not to tie our politics to Christianity for it implies that our politics are the same as Christianity. For Proverbs 6:19 says that God hates the one “that soweth discord among brethren.”

       This is what angers many, having their faith questioned by those who do not care about the message of Christ. They do more harm to Christianity than help it. What you have said is very true, if we let them turn us away from God the only one of wins is the devil. This is why even when someone is lying about our love for Christ and persecuting us we must pray for them. (Mt. 5:44) In about a week this article will be moved to the archives, but I would like to find a way to replace it with one about keeping Christ in Christianity.

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