Free Fire Zone ~ November 08

Written by Christianity and the Confusion on November 1st, 2008

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  1. Anonymous says:

       As the Butterfinger Rabi said after a batched circumcision, “It will not be long now!” Soon we will know who will be our next President and some will be happy while others will be disappointed. I would like to hear everyone find something good to say about the election outcome in their area. Surely, there is one race or measure that has gone the way you wanted, what is it?

  2. Anonymous says:

    Be careful what you ask for you might get it. Say that in humility, not blowback. I liked the old advertisement, that had a mohel (not a rabbi), who normally does a bris (circumcision), hired to cut an very large diamond, in the back of a luxury car (shows how gentle the ride is).
    Obama has made history as of a few minutes ago. There will be challenges in some state counts, but the Electoral College total should be insurmountable even after judicial jerrymandering.

  3. Anonymous says:

       I am so pleased to say once again we will have a Democratic President. I praise God for President-elect Barack Obama. After a multitude of lies from the right, the just and the godly have won, America has won.

  4. Anonymous says:

    I have to say Congrats to Barack. A good race was run by McCain, and his conciliation speech was well done. I'm proud to live in this country, where we have come so far from our racist, sexist past, and into the future. Well done to both.

  5. Anonymous says:

    I know that the election is over, but this is so cute.

    John McCain and Sarah Palin visit an Arabian Oil Sheik to ask for greater oil shipments to the United States to a catchy hip-hop tune…
    hilarity ensues!

  6. Anonymous says:

    Ditto to that, I was so worried that the RNC would rig another election. Barack has a hard job ahead of him, but at least there's hope that he can dig us out of this hole where McCain and Palin would just dig us deeper into that hole.

  7. Anonymous says:

    That's terrable!! It should be removed.

  8. Anonymous says:

    blondiegoin, if you are wondering what happen to your post, it was moved to an opening article, “Gay-marriage ban” we hope this pleases you.

  9. Anonymous says:

    Thank you, that is so cool.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Everything about how Republicans campaign is terrible and un-American!

  11. Anonymous says:

    Gentlemen and respected members of this, august body, may I offer up thanks to our concerted efforts over these past few years. Last night's primary vote totals show that our efforts to split and nullify the GOP have been proven successful.
    While many Republicans turn out in mediocre numbers the base of their party have taken the bait. Our Dixie Land associates have successfully fed enough of our carefully crafted misinformation into the churches and clan halls of the south to push Our McCain into the lead throughout the nation.
    As planned the Southern Evangelical voters have hoisted their champion, Huckabee, high upon their shoulders to proclaim their hate filled rhetoric and doctrines in a number of southern states. They have taken votes away from their only real conservative in this race and have separated themselves from the rest of the Republican voting block that is voting for a left leaning Republicrat we have dressed up as a war hawk.
    The Kansas hate churches have separated the more intelligent factions of the GOP from the evangelicals and continue to spread the anti Romney message throughout multiple denominations and mega churches and luckily for us, all this they have done on their own. Ironically it seems that their hateful version of deity has punished their own voters in Arkansas and Tennessee with powerful tornados and storms for their voting last night.
    The “Our Giuliani” Camp has successfully pushed forth legislation creating winner take all delegations for state primary elections. We knew Romney and Huckabee could not garnish enough votes to win major states so the winner take all delegation campaign has worked in our favor. Little do they know that by doing so they are moving more toward Democracy and less toward their beloved Republic ideals they so proudly tout.
    Soon our efforts to separate the more independent and rational sectors of the GOP from the dregs of their fickle society will prove successful. We have increased the production of more yellow ribbon stickers and flags to be sold at the convenience stores throughout the South. We have even contracted another country music artist to record an emotional country song to amp up the fanatical patriots in their trailer parks. If the Republicans can consider bottom of the barrel their base, then this is all they will have left once this project is completed.
    John McCain will most certainly obtain the nomination. Our money and influence will pay out in November. In the interim let us continue to make our calls into the talk radio and provide the wedge to split the party. The pundits can work for us in our favor. Let us continue to frame the “Liberals” of the Republican Party as a cancer that must be cut off.
    Gentlemen I forecast the fracture of the GOP within 12 months. They cannot withstand the force of their own hate machine. Their guns of hate have been pointed at their own heads for the last 8 years. We have supplied the ammunition. All we have now to do is wait, while they dismember themselves in efforts to purify the Party of God.
    While Democrats line up in record numbers trying to decide which candidate is the greatest the Republicans are lining up and voting for the Democrat we installed years ago. Eerily we have the neo-cons and Karl Rove's minions to thank for this. We will continue to press forward in this fight and remember. The future is now in our hands. We have been given this opportunity by ones that opposed us for so long. Let us never forget our vision. The future is past. We have already won.

  12. Anonymous says:

    I don't know what to make of that one but it lead to this some what comical video of political cynicism.

  13. Anonymous says:

       In preparing a video I came across this one. I raise this question, how can anyone call themselves Christians and support this type of hate? This documentary is a good example of how evil some on the right are.

    Bill Moyers explores how Conservative Talk Radio is inciting normal people to violence and hate against other Americans. “We must remember that any oppression, any injustice, any hatred, is a wedge designed to attack our civilization.” Franklin D. Roosevelt If FDR's quote is true, then inciting others to disrespect and hate in order to “win” is treasonous to America as it divides the USA from within. A House divided against itself will not stand.

  14. Anonymous says:

    Paradox of tolerance

    The philosopher Karl Popper perhaps said it best in his book The Open Society and Its Enemies when he explained the Paradox of tolerance:

    Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.

    In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols.

    We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal.

    “The Paradox of Tolerance,” Karl Popper, The Open Society and Its Enemies, Vol. I, Chapt. 7, n.4, at 265 (Princeton University Press 1971) (emphasis added, italics in original).

    Equality, rightly understood as our founding fathers understood it, leads to liberty and to the emancipation of creative differences; wrongly understood, as it has been so tragically in our time, it leads first to conformity and then to despotism.
    Barry Goldwater (R) Late Senator & Father of the Conservative movement

  15. Anonymous says:

       Actually, I do not think it to be that big of a paradox as it first seems. Bfgrnnnnn makes some very excellent points and I have transferred his post to the C -n- C because of that. I hope it is ok, if not I can delete it. The reason that I do not see this as a paradox is because I am a believer in limited absolutes. That is to say that there are very few true absolutes, tolerance as well as Freedom of Speech are limited absolutes in that they can only be applied to a certain point, after which they are no longer in existence. For example, one cannot scream fire in a crowded theater unless there is a fire. To speak of assassinate is also not protected speech and can get a person in a bit of trouble. In the same way, we tolerant that intimate activities of consenting adults but do not extent that tolerance to a pedophiliac.

       In the Preamble to the Constitution it states that one of the responsibilities of the government is to “promote the general Welfare” (or well being) of the American people. Where this can cover a whole host of topics it most certainly applies to protection from those who would use propaganda to incite a riot or harm to others. A civil court would award damages to those who suffered loss because of such propagandizing and if that is so, we have a right to demand that the FCC regulate all who operate in a fiduciary capacity. If someone is claiming to be a news agency and is instead an agent of propaganda they should be shut down, as well as anyone who is using our airwaves to promote fear and hatred, and without question stopping those who promote violence. We as Americans have right to feel safe in our persons, and the government is obligated to that end.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Nov. 17, 2008 | NEW YORK — Proving yet again that there are indeed second and even third acts in American lives, Bill Ayers had transformed himself over a quarter of a century from an on-the-run-from-the-law member of the Weather Underground to a Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. But because of a single event — a 1995 coffee that he and his wife gave for fledgling state Senate candidate Barack Obama — Ayers again found himself in the cross hairs of history.
    John McCain targeted his rival's associations with radicals like Ayers, and Sarah Palin hyperbolically accused Obama of “palling around with terrorists.” Ayers rebuffed interview requests throughout the campaign, but has dropped his reticence with the republication of his 2001 book, “Fugitive Days: Memoirs of an Antiwar Activist.”
    Video: Interview with Bill Ayers

    Edited by Host 1 to make the video work.

  17. Anonymous says:

    This is suppose to be a Christian site, so I want to know how can anyone support this unrepented terrorist. Ayer said right after 9/11 that he thought that his group didn't throw enough bombs in the 60s. What type of American bombs his own government? As Christians we should be condemning Ayer! I don't see how we could of elected a man whose roots intertangle him with this terrorist!


    I‘m still proud of the Republican Party

  18. Anonymous says:

       When I first heard that Hillary might be the next secretary of State I was at a loss. Like many I did not see the logic in choosing her. Then it came to me, Hillary could act as a lighting rod for Obama.

       The right wanted Hillary Clinton to be the Democratic Nominee. They had planned to use twenty years of smear attacks against her. If she had won the election they figured that they could use all this information to bring her down and return the Congress to Republican hands. It must have been a shock for them when we nominated Barack Obama instead, but now they are ramping up the hate rhetoric against Obama. If Hillary becomes the Secretary of State the far right will not be able to resist the temptation to attack her 24/7. She could act as a lighting rod for all their attacks, leaving Obama free to govern. I could see in three years Hillary resigning to help with Obama's reelection campaign. This would kill all the extremist attacks of her and leave them at a loss to refocus on Obama.

       Well this is my speculation.

  19. Anonymous says:

    You don't believe what friends of the Clinton's have said for years. Their only language is blind ambition. Just as Medvedyev is Putin's cat's-paw to get around the limitation on more than two terms in the Kremlin, and a subtrefuge that will allow Putin to run again (non-consecutive terms) … Obama is, for the Clinton's but not Obama, the way in which Hillary can ready herself for 2012 or 2016. Her question is, will the Secretary of State position her better than Senator? Bill's question is, can he stand giving up all his lucrative speeches and side deals, that he can do with Hillary as Senator, but can't if she is in the State Department. A question of blind ambition vs millions in personal aggregation. I predict Bill's money will beat Hillary's ambition. But then again, Hillary is like my ex, relentless to the point of self destruction.
    The Clintons, Bushes, and Kennedyes … are like French royalists, so full of entitlement to absolute power and personal remuneration, that none of them can see straight, see the Sans Cullotes marching on Versailles. Best for all of them and their scions to retire back to private life, and Dubai/Paraguay/Columbian sweetheart deals.

  20. Anonymous says:

    na. no games like that with things that matter. he'll pick her if he wants her because he thinks she would be good in the position, or he wont pick her. (emphasis on he wont pick her).
    but hey… she'll be president in '016

  21. Anonymous says:

    I would question Obama's judgement if he picked her for anything. I think it's the Clinton camp that has pushed her name for the position. Obama should stay as far away from this woman and her idiot husband as possible.

  22. Anonymous says:

    Doubt it, Hillary would be an awful pick for SoS, just as she would have been for Veep. First off, if you want to send a message that American has turned a corner, you don't take two steps back to choose your SoS.
    Nor is there any evidence that she would willingly play fourth or fifth Banana. She wouldn't like being told what to do, and would hate the glory going to Obama rather than her, should she do a good job.
    She will remain a not very effective senator, and bide her time. If Obama maintains his popularity, I doubt she will attempt a run in 2012. She might run in 2016, but will likely be too old, too Baby Boomer, to win then.

  23. Anonymous says:

    The Drudge Report had this awful prediction. I know that a lot of you think that Obama is like the second coming of Christ but you're wrong. We are in big trouble and what does Obama want to do? Raise taxes and regulate the free market till it dies! Maybe if the Democrats had gotten behind President Bush and helped we wouldn't be in this fix now, but these liberal big government stuff is the last thing that we need. I hope that this analyst is wrong, but I'm afraid that he isn't. What Obama needs to do is to put McCain and Gingrich in his cabinet. He needs the advise of men like them to save the Country. Will Obama's ego let him ask for help? I doubt it!

    Tue Nov 25 2008 09:04:22 ET
    A leading Russian political analyst has said the economic turmoil in the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the country is heading for collapse, and will divide into separate parts.
    Professor Igor Panarin said in an interview with the respected daily IZVESTIA published on Monday: “The dollar is not secured by anything. The country's foreign debt has grown like an avalanche, even though in the early 1980s there was no debt. By 1998, when I first made my prediction, it had exceeded $2 trillion. Now it is more than 11 trillion. This is a pyramid that can only collapse.”
    The paper said Panarin's dire predictions for the U.S. economy, initially made at an international conference in Australia 10 years ago at a time when the economy appeared strong, have been given more credence by this year's events.
    When asked when the U.S. economy would collapse, Panarin said: “It is already collapsing. Due to the financial crisis, three of the largest and oldest five banks on Wall Street have already ceased to exist, and two are barely surviving. Their losses are the biggest in history. Now what we will see is a change in the regulatory system on a global financial scale: America will no longer be the world's financial regulator.” Read More


    Jeb Bush in 2012

  24. Anonymous says:
    You don’t actually believe all of that do you? The Drudge report isn’t exactly reliable; I wouldn’t be surprised to see him reporting that a two headed monster was going to eat Washington! Yes, the Nation is in big trouble thanks to Republican economics, but to paraphrase Mark Twain our demise has been greatly over exaggerated. Now that the Country has returned to Democratic hands we can restore America’s greatness. I really wish that Republicans would wait until Barack has been in office for a few years before saying that he’s a failure. We didn’t jump on Bush until he actually failed, how about doing the same?
  25. Anonymous says:
    That was so funny! Thanks Jess, I needed a good laugh. Thank God, that we have only 55 days until Barack will be sworn in as President. I wish we could do it right now!
  26. Anonymous says:

    Give me a break! The whole Democrat Party was screaming that Gore won even after the votes had been counted five times! and the Bush bashing hasn't stopped since!


    Jeb Bush in 2012

  27. Anonymous says:
    You have selective memory and its wrong. All the votes weren’t counted until long after Bush was appointed and that isn’t bashing him. I can’t believe how ridiculous you guys on the right are about criticism when you think that it’s ok to say anything about a Democrat and BTW, it’s the Democratic Party! See, that’s just one more way that Republicans try to insult us and we’re suppose to take it and grin but if we point out just one thing wrong with a Republican they consider that an attack. I bet you think its bashing Bush to say that Al Gore was the real winner in 2000. The truth is that your info is wrong on so many counts, America is not going down the drain and you just have to have a little more faith.

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